How big are Japanese water wheels?

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Chef Niloc

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I got asked a question the other day that I could not answer, and I can't find the answer anywhere? What size are the wheels used to grind out the hollow back of traditional kitchen knives?
 
Using this as a typical wheel, my guess would be in the area of about 3 foot Dia.
[video=youtube;aU6u80Hyw5Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aU6u80Hyw5Y[/video]
 
A couple of knives I have bought seem to have 2 different sizes of shallowness. Meaning 2 different sizes of wheels.
 
I thought the hollow back was created during the forging process...like with a hammer.

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[video=youtube;UqwxkyaSws8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqwxkyaSws8[/video]
 
I do not regret watching the second video one bit. That was actually pretty freakin' amazing to watch. I like the serious face turned big goofy grin, at the end.
 
Ok, I just watched the Carter one and it was awesome too.
 
We're getting a new wheel from Japan soon and I was told that it was over 500 kgs.
 
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