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    Quote Originally Posted by ThEoRy View Post
    I missed that part. Needs moar coffee....

    VG-10 is microchipppy had a shun first hand and noticed so many chips going on

    Aus-8 is ok...not super stainless at all

    Never used 440c

    Theory....I just noticed it says Central NJ on your avatar...I am Central NJ as well closer to the shore

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    Vg10 adds cobalt and vanadium. 440c has the highest carbon content. I would pick either of these, leaning to the vg10 myself. All three are similar, though. Are they all heat treated by the same company?

    Many judge vg10 by their experiences with Shun. Other makers, such as Hattori or Takeshi Saji are known to do brilliant things with the steel....
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoqaVin View Post
    VG-10 is microchipppy...
    CoqaVin, this is not an attack on you, but an attempt to put an end to this "VG-10 is chippy" meme that appears to have run amok on this forum. I have to utterly refute this myth. Properly heat-treated, VG-10 is NOT "microchippy". In support of this, I invite you to use any of the Forum knives (Hattori FH), or a VG-10 blade from Yoshikane. Your experience with Shun blades does not extend to all VG-10 knives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pensacola Tiger View Post
    CoqaVin, this is not an attack on you, but an attempt to put an end to this "VG-10 is chippy" meme that appears to have run amok on this forum. I have to utterly refute this myth. Properly heat-treated, VG-10 is NOT "microchippy". In support of this, I invite you to use any of the Forum knives (Hattori FH), or a VG-10 blade from Yoshikane. Your experience with Shun blades does not extend to all VG-10 knives.

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    Ok let me rephrase it than....Shuns are microchippy in VG-10...as I have not tried the others...just stating that this is what happened to me using that type of steel...The HT's on all others can be superb for all I know...sorry about the miscommunication didn't mean any harm by it

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoqaVin View Post
    Ok let me rephrase it than....Shuns are microchippy in VG-10...as I have not tried the others...just stating that this is what happened to me using that type of steel...The HT's on all others can be superb for all I know...sorry about the miscommunication didn't mean any harm by it
    As I said, I'm not attacking you. I've also seen microchipping on Shun knives, usually cured by a micro bevel. I've also seen microchipping on Hattori HD knives. I just wanted to make it clear that not all VG-10 knives are like that. It goes along with the recommendation to pay more attention to the maker's heat treatment, and less attention to the steel that is used. The "Tale of Two AEB-L's" is very much apropos in this case.

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    Agreed it's all about the different HT's

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    I have purchased AUS-8 and 440C blades from a couple of the big knife supply sources. The AUS-8 blanks were very thing, sharpened well, but chipped easily. The 440C blades I have purchased were thicker, sharpened easily, no chipping that I noticed, but required more frequent sharpening. Both steels make good knives for the average home user. I feel the perform as well as the mid line Henckles/Wusthof knives.

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    I can't remember if I've used AUS-8. VG10 can be very nice as can 440C but I would say VG10 can give superior performance, in general. The longer I'm around here, the more I realize, it's more about the HT than the actual steel a lot of the time. The VG10 chippiness come from some observations specific to Tojiro blades and a few others IIRC hardened over 60 hrc that were reported to chip excessively. Personally, I've only remember observing it on Tojiros.

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    440C can be damn fine steel. To be honest, I just go with a maker's favourite given steel. I know this doesn't apply with knife blanks, but if you're going DT and you want stainless (you can't go wrong either way), why not go with AEB-l. Pierre, O1 or S35VN. Butch, W2 or CTS-XHP. Rader/Burke/Tsourkan, 52100. Carter, White 1. Etc, etc. It's about the HT, yes, but it's also about how well the maker knows the steel in terms of belt type and grit to use, how long to hold a piece on the grinder, signs of problems, how many cycles are REALLY needed, etc.
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    If you haven't done your choice yet i would go with Aus-8 because it is the toughest of them all and will hold an edge very good and fairly easy to maintain

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