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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceconvoy View Post
    So what? Does that affect the performance of the choil?

    Choil shots tell you as much about the geometry of a knife as a woman's foot tells you about the rest of her body.

    Sorry to intrude, just a pet peeve of mine.
    Some people have foot fetishes!
    Maybe there's a special club-foot, or deformed foot fetish.

    Dude honestly here you go again "poking the bear"
    "petting the porcupine"

    You really can't tell anything about a knife by the choil?
    really?

    Here we go again. We're gonna get all riled up and start talking **** about each other, forum ethics, etc. on a Ken Onion and/or Chef Knives To Go thread!
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    Why does it have to be about that? You're the one bringing crap up.... I'm trying to make a point that you can't tell anything about blade geometry from the choil.

    Yes, you really can't "tell" anything. You can assume a lot, and a lot of knives will validate your assumptions. But "judgment by choil shot" without any experience with a knife should be frowned upon.

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    I respectfully disagree sir. I always look at the choil.
    Every time.
    No matter how high the throne,
    there sits but an ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceconvoy View Post
    So what? Does that affect the performance of the choil?

    Choil shots tell you as much about the geometry of a knife as a woman's foot tells you about the rest of her body.

    Sorry to intrude, just a pet peeve of mine.
    the choil is awfully important if you are cutting with the heel, bud. In that picture, you can also see that the heel edge is quite thick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knyfeknerd View Post
    I respectfully disagree sir. I always look at the choil.
    Every time.
    Then I have a Takayuki Grand Chef wa-gyuto to sell you






    This is why you can't trust choil shots alone. People who own one complain about the Grand Chef being a "plank on a stick" but many are tricked into buying it from the choil shot.

    In the 2nd pic, see how that huge bevel curves down to almost nothing at the point of the heel? The heel is the only place where the choil geometry exists.

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    SC, that is a bizarre example but for most situations the choil shot really helps to reveal the geometry of the knife. And back to the original point of the thread, this Onion looks butt ugly at the choil and I doubt if the geometry improves over the course of the edge though I'm sure the daveb would know.
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    That is one Fugly knife!
    "Those who say it can't be done are always pasted by those doing it"

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    Your GCW looks bent 1 cm from the handle.

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    Chris you and Justin crack me up. where the hell do you come up with this. thanks for the hoot

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    SC, The choil is accepted as an indicator of the overall knife geometry - hence the choil shot being de rigueur in a review. In this review the thick choil, lack of distal taper and cutting experience at the tip and mid point all support a conclusion that this is a fatty. And for this application, (it's certainly not targeted at a professional or enen geek user), that may be ok.

    Your "woman's foot" analogy fails. If "A" is not an indicator of "B" then "C" must not be an indicator of "D"?

    Your opinion on the choil as an indicator of overall geometry may be different and may warrant it's own thread, but to paraphrase KKnerd, quit poking the damn bear.

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