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    Forged gyuto..

    Hi everyone,

    I'm Riccardo, and i'm from Italy, so my english is not so good.
    I'm looking for a true hand-forged Japanese knives, in particular a high quality gyuto of 210mm-240mm, made of carbon steel. I can spend maximum 200 dollars.
    Well, I found theese knives:

    -Hiromoto AS http://japanesechefsknife.com/TenmiJ...ml#AogamiSuper
    -Masamoto HC http://japanesechefsknife.com/HCSeries.html#HCSeries
    -Misono Sweden steel http://japanesechefsknife.com/Sweden...ml#SwedenSteel
    -Takamura R2(don't know if it's a carbon steel) http://www.finejapanesekitchenknives.com/takamura.php

    1)Do you know if anyone of theese is a truly hand-forged knifes?
    2)Is one of theese better than the others?
    3)Could you recommend me other knives of the same category?

    Thanks !!

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    R2 = SG2; it's a stainless powdered steel. Look at tanaka blue#2 - http://www.metalmaster-ww.com/product/33

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    Thanks for the reply!
    Are all of the knives i mentioned NOT hand forged?
    I saw that the tanaka has only got a core of blue steel..isn't it a "cheaper" construction than the hiromoto's one (for example)? Why this Tanaka is so cheap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riccardo View Post
    Thanks for the reply!
    Are all of the knives i mentioned NOT hand forged?
    I saw that the tanaka has only got a core of blue steel..isn't it a "cheaper" construction than the hiromoto's one (for example)? Why this Tanaka is so cheap?
    I'm pretty sure that the Masamoto/Misono/Hiromoto are mass produced. The Hiromoto is quite different from the other two as it is san-mai - that is, it has a core of carbon steel clad in stainless steel. The other two are a single piece of high carbon steel.

    Look at other makers if you want a hand made piece.

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    At that price point, you may want to consider a Moritaka, but be aware that they are known to have grind issues.
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    HI
    I would say none of these are truly handforged. I would say, that you cannot produce massproduction knives in japan using a hammer and anvil. With knives in that kategorie at least hydraulic hammers are involved...Please proof me wrong if otherwise.
    It is very hard to recommend a knife without knowing what you need....But if i had to choose, i would take the Misono. But thats a purely personal preference.

    Tanti saluti
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    So, if i correctly understand, it's quite impossible to find a forged knifes in this price range ( up to 200 dollars)..
    And if i should buy a forged one..which craftman does forged knife, with an honest price?
    I understand from yours replies that both Moritaka and Tanaka are forged..others?
    Not considering the factor "forged", wich one of the knife mentioned you consider the best? I'm an home chef, and i'm looking for a realy sharp and re-sharpable carbon gyuto, to use as a meat-fish-vegetables slicer/chopper..of course i'll be happy to own a high quality one!!

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    Wat about a Wanatabe? These might be slightly over budget though. But very good value for money.

    Also, Takeda is my favourite. He has Sasanoha and Gyuto's for fair prices and they're definately hand forged! You can email him for enquiries, he's always very quick to reply!

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    I'm curious why the obsession with "hand forging"? Power hammers that many smiths use are bloody useful and work well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XooMG View Post
    I'm curious why the obsession with "hand forging"? Power hammers that many smiths use are bloody useful and work well.
    My guess is people actually use 'hand forged' for both powered hammered and hand hammered steel. Hand forged is often used to distinct factory hand hand made knives.

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