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Thread: Whats wrong with all of you? (Thread will close 7-1)

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    I was never banned or suspended.

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    What is wrong with you????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhlee View Post
    These are good points. However, I think that a few things really differentiate things here.

    First, KF would NEVER allow for a thread like this to continue. It would have been locked immediately. By allowing this thread to continue (and others that preceded this thread), it's allowing for people to air out their opinions which, for me, has made me feel more like a part of this community than at KF.

    Second, in my experience, the vendors here are much more respectful of each other.

    Third, Dave, Jon, Marko, Stefan, and the other vendors, including the knifemakers, all have their niche - they are not competing with each other. Dave and Jon both have sharpening products, but with only nominal overlap. The knives they sell are different. The knives sold by the knifemakers are all different. And specifically with respect to Dave and Jon, because I've spoken with both, neither are openly pushing their products in this forum at the expense of someone else's product or price cutting for the sake of poaching sales from other vendors. This was obvious at KF.

    Fourth, and lastly, I think the people here are, all in all, better members. They are more respectful and knowledgeable. The more experienced or long time knife owners here may have strong opinions, but, from what I've seen, they've been offered in a friendly manner.

    I've enjoyed being a member here much more than at KF. And I'd like to thank all the members here for a great forum.

    Thanks for the nice run down, this is a good place to point out some operating goals that, as a team we have here at KKF.

    Any respectful and gentlemanly discussion is welcome-
    Any opinion or experience is welcome-
    Threads about vendor issues are welcome - see point #1

    Whats not going to be permitted is-

    Ax grinding-
    Personal attacks-
    Stampede posting, where a member is modded and get snarky everywhere on the board.
    Posts may be modded at various times (especially titles) for gratuitous vulgarity-
    Dragging issues from other boards over to KKF-
    Posting Private messages without all parties permission-
    Commercial or promotional posts outside the vendors forum-

    Basically its "Play nice!"

    This has been a pretty easy transition here, many of the men are very seasoned posters and most have at least a few grey hairs.

    The team expected this thread, or one like it to have been posted a long time ago, we discussed it agreed that we would let it run for as long as it needed to to let the men vent, we also plan on it being the last of its kind.

    We have a wonderful opportunity here to create a vibrant and useful community, I am very happy to be a small part of it.

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhlee View Post
    First, KF would NEVER allow for a thread like this to continue. It would have been locked immediatley.
    That's simply not true as a general rule. Sure, during the n Lear war that erupted during that stretch, I was certainly more trigger happy. However, the members proved time and time again that the thread couldn't continue peacefully. Ultimately someone would start **** and the thread got locked before I had a chance another one popped up with the same thing. It's not a full time job for me. In order to keep the peace as effectively as possible, I chose the path of lock first, figure it out later.

    A thread like this would not get locked today and wouldn't have been any other time as a general rule.

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    I think we should leave KF be, since this is a new forum. Let it be, guys. Let it go. We have a better place now.

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    As a operational rule, if possible we prefer to remove posts that are not in compliance rather than close an entire thread.

    If a thread is constantly contentious and has become circular, then it may be closed.

    Comments about other forums and bringing up, for or against, specific actions by mods on other forums will be removed.

    I would urge all parties to get off their chest anything like this now so we can get back to playing with knives.

    Jim

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    I am/was still a newcomer when everything happened at KF, but as others have said, I find this place to be better than KF ever was. I feel that at KF the vendor section is more important than the actual discussion part, and so many of the posters are closely allied to the vendors that you have to weigh their opinion against that. I really hope this place keeps being so interesting and informative

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    Forgive me for my 2 cents worth, but...

    I was a poster on KF for four years. I left for a variety of reasons which will not be discussed here. I like KKF because of the family atmosphere and the way the members are treated. So, lets get on with this new sandbox and let the old go out with the trash. What past is past and what is gone is gone and I for one will not look back. We need to get past whatever was and look to what is!

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    Butt that doesn't mean living there!
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    I was a little disappointed when this thread was closed, and I'm happy to see that it is being allowed to run it's course.
    Well done, Mods!
    Spike C
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