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    Again, it's NOT the "passion for money". It's that some vendors have sold themselves as experts in a field that they clearly aren't experts in. I remember Mark learning to hand sharpen for the first time. Within a matter of a few weeks, he started posting a series on sharpening knives that to the uninformed buyer on his website would make them think he was an expert knife sharpener. Which leads to things like videos of using an edgepro and pushing other sharpening devices, which *most* posters on here would agree is an expensive and certainly less useful thing for new sharpeners to be using. It's one thing to be a retailer, and another to sell yourself as an expert in the field, particularly when you are hurting the business of those who ARE experts in that field. This forum was set up in part to encourage people to turn to those who really know their stuff and will try to meet your needs as best as they can. If every thread that starts with "What knife to buy..." ends up with "Go to CKtG" then that kind of defeats part of the purpose of this forum.

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    For the record, the company name "Chef Knives To Go" isn't blocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johndoughy View Post
    I have been on these forums for years now, but I still remember that it took me about 4 months of daily reading before I knew what the posts were even talking about--almost exclusively because of acronyms.
    Yeah, when I first started it felt like I would never get the hang of it. At Tom's forum I posted a set of links that had a little description of each site, the name of the person behind it (as often people say, just call Koki, email Stefan, etc) and the acronym for the site. I posted part of it in the wood vendor thread, and the majority of the knife makers I had links for actually have subforums here so that wasn't really relevant. I just didn't post the retailers because all the dogs were sleeping at the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by UglyJoe View Post
    I understand this, but at the same time, that's kind of the point. Forcing people to take the time to learn what these things stand for makes them educate themselves to some degree. I think as a community we would rather new posters take the time to learn about knives and make an informed decision than to have someone say "Go buy a Tojiro from www.**************.com, it's cheap and you can learn on it". Someone who just wants to buy a set of knives as a wedding gift are going to buy from the big boys (SLT, WS, CAM, etc.) or they're going to do a minimum of searching and find CKTG easily enough. Heck, I found CKTG before I ever even heard of knife forums of any kind.
    I see where you are coming from, even if I disagree with the sentiment a little. You and Dave have won me over.


    Therefore, I am volunteering myself to start keeping up with a list of acronyms and specialist terminology.

    I am massively overextended in my personal and professional life, but my internal wiring will not let me rest on this kind of thing, it is one of my passions.

    Dave, if I started making a list/resource like this, would you sponsor it with your occasional help, and sticky it somewhere? I'm very strongly interested in the future success of this site, and I would like the chance to create a welcoming, helpful space for new people who want answers and information about kitchen cutlery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johndoughy View Post
    Dave, if I started making a list/resource like this, would you sponsor it with your occasional help, and sticky it somewhere? I'm very strongly interested in the future success of this site, and I would like the chance to create a welcoming, helpful space for new people who want answers and information about kitchen cutlery.

    Absolutely - yes I'd love to have something like this available. We've already got a Kitchen Knife Knowledge forum all set and waiting. This is one of the areas of the forums that is under developed/used and anything like this that can be added is welcome.

    Thanks for the offer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Martell View Post
    For the record, the company name "Chef Knives To Go" isn't blocked.
    The idea here isn't to censor what's being talked about or where to buy something, just that the direct links to CKTG business sites are no longer allowed. I hope that everyone understands this point, this is very important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johndoughy View Post
    Dave, if I started making a list/resource like this, would you sponsor it with your occasional help, and sticky it somewhere? I'm very strongly interested in the future success of this site, and I would like the chance to create a welcoming, helpful space for new people who want answers and information about kitchen cutlery.
    A disclaimer saying that some non-local (to this forum) vendors cannot be directly linked, in an effort to promote our local, trusted (and paying) vendors. I think that would prevent new people from posting new threads saying "why is my link broken" or "why is my post censored" and the whole issue being dragged into the light again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Martell View Post
    Absolutely - yes I'd love to have something like this available. We've already got a Kitchen Knife Knowledge forum all set and waiting. This is one of the areas of the forums that is under developed/used and anything like this that can be added is welcome.

    Thanks for the offer!
    Alright sounds like a plan.

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    Google any of those products you mentioned and a for sale listing pops up on CKTG. Many of the founding members of this site actually support Dave's decision. If people want to buy something and Googling is beyond them then they got other problems.

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    Hi guys, my name was mentioned earlier and I must say that as a vendor that has sold knives occasionally with ***** for over two years, I do not have a problem with this decision.
    -M

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