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    stone brands

    Hi, i was looking to buy stones
    400 1200 1000 4000.
    but there is a million brands. Or so it seems,
    what should i get?

    I am a beginner, however planning to take a sharpening class.

    i have a budget of 150$-200 total, so combo stones may be an option.

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    You might want to read through this http://www.kitchenknifeforums.com/sh...ing-these-days
    Lots of opinions.
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    thanks chef. I am getting lost in options here.

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    my local chef store has the below
    1 x 400 grit chosera stone - it is long lasting and reshapes worn edges quickly
    1 x 1000 grit superstone – puts a great intermediate polish on the blade especially considering it is only a nakato
    1 x 4000 lobster – this stone is firm and polishes well. It comfortably polishes both ryo-ba and kata-ba blades
    1 x synthetic nagura – for restoring the surface of the stones

    for AUD$265.00

    or

    Superstone set A from Naniwa - three stones $235
    1) Arato 400 grit
    2) Nakato 1000 grit
    3) Shiageto 3000 grit

    are these any good for the price?

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    I would definitely recommend to read some more around here.

    Naniwa SS (SuperStones) have name as very soft stones that wear fast. Naniwa Chosera have very good name though.

    For the beginning you could get something like a King 1000/6000 combination stone or Bester 1000 (or 1200) and Rika 5000 for a fraction of your budget. There are many other options indeed. You will not need a 400 stone right away unless you have knives that need a lot of work on bevels on thinning - none of which is really something for somebody without experience in sharpening.

    Taking sharpening class is not a bad idea at all, but starting with youtube videos by Jon (japaneseknifeimports.com) or Maksim (japanesenaturalstones.com) could be all you need. You can also get a DVD from Murray Carter (I did when I was starting about a year ago) - I found it very helpful.

    Both Jon and Maksim have super quality synthetic stones, though you will not get 3 stones within your budget. However Jon has 1000/6000 combination stone that would fit your budget (maybe even with the 400 stone). Do not hesitate to contact Jon or Maksim via email - you will get the best advice there.

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    Just to throw some options.
    1200 - Bester 1200 or King 1000
    400 - Norton IB8 (while it is not a Japanese water stone, I find it to be a very nice choice when you need to grind of tons of metal)
    4000 - Naniwa SS5000 leaves nice finish also some people swear by Suehiro Rika 5000

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    Since you are located in Australia, I would not consider any US vendors because of ridiculous shipping charges, but look to a vendor elsewhere.

    Maksim (Japanese Natural Stones) carries many excellent synthetic stones as well as naturals. A three stone set of the Beston 500, JNS 1000 and JNS 6000 is somewhat over your budget, but are excellent stones.

    MetalMaster carries the Beston 500 and the Bester 1200 that are highly recommended. Add an Arashiyama 6000 and EMS shipping and you are just at the top of your budget.

    http://www.metalmaster-ww.com

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    I stand behind gesshin stones 100% and glad I made the investment.

    I have chosera as well and they are good but I prefer gesshin.

    The bester/rika combo is the best for beginners on a budget but will desire more stones later.

    Spend the cash now or later it's up to you.

    But as others mentioned a 1k is as low as you need right now I'd go with the bester 1200 and rika 5k or for gesshin combo stone or 1k, 4k ( the 4k cuts so fast it really replaces the 2k option and leaves a better edge).

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    If you're buying from Maksim, you should take a look at the jns800 and jns red aoto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talim View Post
    If you're buying from Maksim, you should take a look at the jns800 and jns red aoto.
    +1 on that. I have not had a chance to use the read aoto (this is a synthetic stone in spite of the name), but the 800 really is amazing - cuts fast and leaves very nice finish. And both are HUGE. If I were getting a 2 stone combination today (mind you I have Gesshin 400, 2000 and 6000) I would not hesitate to get the JNS 800 and Red Aoto combination.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong to get a Bester and Rika, but depending on what type of person you are you may not resist the temptation to get a Gesshin or JNS few months later

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