naniwa chosera or naniwa ss

a few days ago I wore out my cheap eden 240 grit stone from thinning and sharpening. now I need another coarse stone. I want a stone that does not dish too fast. I would like to stay under 50 dollar. i'm thinking of a naniwa chosera 400 or naniwa ss 400. how would you compare them or do you have other recommendations?
(ps I would like to buy in europe to save on shipping costs.

You can get a chosera 400 for under $50? Either way i wouldnt want to replace a stone you use for thinning with the chosera, its a great stone but not too effective for thinning.

labor of love said:

You can get a chosera 400 for under $50? Either way i wouldnt want to replace a stone you use for thinning with the chosera, its a great stone but not too effective for thinning.

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sorry, it's actually 60 dollar. wich stone do you recommend for thinning wich does not dish too fast. i'd also would like to know wich slow wearing coarse stone you recommend just for sharpening.
thanks in advance

Atoma 140 diamond plate for major thinning and repair, gesshin 400 is a fast cutter has incredible feedback but dishes slightly and beston 500 doesn't cut as fast or feel as nice as the gesshin but dishes incredibly slowly.

Gesshin 400 is way way way better than any other low grit stone ive ever used. And ive used around a dozen or so. Unfortunately it might be expensive for you to order one in Europe. Look into it though.

I noticed that they sell i think the same stone in europe under an other name and quite a bit cheaper

menno said:

I noticed that they sell i think the same stone in europe under an other name and quite a bit cheaper

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Can you point me to such products? I'm currently also looking for ~400 grit stone, but Gesshin shipping would double its price

I have not used it personally, but the 300 from JNS could also be a solution. The 800 is VERY nice.

menno said:

I noticed that they sell i think the same stone in europe under an other name and quite a bit cheaper

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Which stone do you actually have in mind? I suppose you do not mean the Gesshin stones as these are custom made for JKI.

Matus said:

I have not used it personally, but the 300 from JNS could also be a solution. The 800 is VERY nice.

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I heard only good reviews about this stone, but can't justify the price. JNS 300 shipped from Denmark to my address is 120$. Compare this to Chosera 400 which would cost me 61$ shipped from Japan.

so, i think i'm gonna take a naniwa chosera 400 or a beston 500. wich one do you reccomend?

Beston

labor of love said:

Beston

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do you know where i can buy them in europe? i noticed that dieter schmidt sells the beston 400, I don't know if that's a good stone.

From Metalmaster $8 shipping: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Japanese-sharpening-whetstone-BESTON-500-water-stone-oil-stone-/261319960050
From Maxim: http://www.japanesenaturalstones.com/beston-500/

I noticed that they sell i think the same stone in europe under an other name and quite a bit cheaper

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cant imagine that but which one do you mean?

It was on a german site. I can't find it anymore if I find it i'll let you know.

menno said:

It was on a german site. I can't find it anymore if I find it i'll let you know.

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Fine-tools.de pherhaps?

no, i just can't find it anymore but it looked the same as the gesshin 400. maybe it's indeed an other stone, but I was just wondering.

I use a Bester 220 for serious metal removal. Inexpensive and amazingly effective. Slow to dish for a coarse stone depending on your habits and easy to flatten.