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    New to stones/strops

    I picked up a king 1000/6000 wet stone and just made a couple of strops. I've been practicing on some of my older knives and watched numerous videos on youtube on wetstones and stropping. This is addicting lol and I've been able to put a razor sharp edge on a few knives that glide through paper and can shave hair off my arm. I ordered some green chalk compound and the extra fine which is white. I bought the leather belts at home depot and had them cut the 2x4 in 2 foot sections. I'm using one for the gren, one for the white and one raw. Any other suggestions ?

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    Do most of you have a stone between the 6000 and the strop ?

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    It's addicting isn't it?

    I have the JNS 300, 1K & 6K in my set up and been working very well for the different knives steel in my arsenal.

    For the strops, I have leather that I usually charged with chromium oxide and also one of Marko Tsourkan's hard felt charged with 1 micron diamond spray.

    This set up has been working very well for me, although I am thinking of adding a Jnat or synthetic in the grit higher than the 6K to play around with.

    I bet the other more experienced members will also advice you more on this soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V1P View Post
    It's addicting isn't it?

    I have the JNS 300, 1K & 6K in my set up and been working very well for the different knives steel in my arsenal.

    For the strops, I have leather that I usually charged with chromium oxide and also one of Marko Tsourkan's hard felt charged with 1 micron diamond spray.

    This set up has been working very well for me, although I am thinking of adding a Jnat or synthetic in the grit higher than the 6K to play around with.

    I bet the other more experienced members will also advice you more on this soon.

    Ferry

    Thanks for the reply. Is there any advantage with a spray vs a chalk/ paste type compound ?

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    My chromium oxide is in chalk form, I just spread it on the leather.

    As to the pro and cons of it, I have no definite idea. I bought both of the strops paired like that from the suppliers and they worked very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V1P View Post
    For the strops, I have leather that I usually charged with chromium oxide and also one of Marko Tsourkan's hard felt charged with 1 micron diamond spray.
    Ferry
    I've never had a good handle on various strop materials and compounds. Do you routinely use both of the strops? If so, what order, and why?

    I see various kinds of leather, as well as balsa and hard felt for strops (as well as some people who use newspaper), and I've never really understood the pros and cons of those various materials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loves2cook View Post
    Do most of you have a stone between the 6000 and the strop ?
    Depends on the knife. Gyuto I go right from 5k to felt or leather with diamond. Yanagiba I go up to 12k then felt or leather with chromium. The difference is a sharp edge with some bite or a smooth sharp edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toddnmd View Post
    I've never had a good handle on various strop materials and compounds. Do you routinely use both of the strops? If so, what order, and why?

    I see various kinds of leather, as well as balsa and hard felt for strops (as well as some people who use newspaper), and I've never really understood the pros and cons of those various materials.
    From my limited experience, I also found that certain steel types react differently to my 2 strops. I am still experimenting all the time.

    From all the knives I have, I use my Sakai Yusuke Swedish stainless gyuto the most. That particular knife I always touch up on JNS 6K and finish on the leather with chromium oxide. That gives me a very sharp toothy knife perfect for my commercial use. That steel does not react very well to the felt one with diamond. My Harner's nakiri with Carpenter CTS-XHP PM steel, on the other hand, works well with the felt.

    I think, this topic is very subjective since everyone has a different opinion on sharpness, what you use the knife to cut with and what steel.

    It's an everlasting journey with knives, stones and strops. There is no right answer, just try and stick with what works best for you.

    Listen to Theory, he knows what he is talking about. Heck, his sharpening video is one of the few that I regularly look up to.

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    My thoughts - It seems to me that certain compounds work better or at least have a different result depending on the steel. Obviously the compounds are available in different micron ratings so that has an impact but also diamond compounds seem to be more effective at abrading more wear resistant steel. Diamond also seems to give a more toothy edge, I assume because of the shape of the diamond particles. Other compounds give a better polish. As far as strop material, the felt seems to give a more toothy finish, my guess is from the fibers. This also seems to aid in bur removal. With balsa, there is less risk of rounding the edge from pressure, which can happen with leather or felt - particularly if the felt is not the harder stuff that seems to be less commonly available (only seen it discussed as being available from Marko and in the past Dave). Of course the edge can be rounded with balsa if too obtuse of an angle is used. With smooth leather I'm not sure it has any advantage over other materials if compounds are used. Seems to be a fair amount of variability with leather too and it can develop an uneven surface overtime. Newspaper is obviously inexpensive and easily available and seems to work well for some, and can be used on a hard surface which again may reduce the chance of rounding the edge.

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    What type or kind of felt do you recommend ? I would like to give it a try. Thanks !

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