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    Looking for a few simple, decent, stainless western knives

    I will try to do this one but he book

    LOCATION
    Germany

    KNIFE TYPE
    pairing, petty, santoku, gyuto

    Are you right or left handed?
    right handed

    Are you interested in a Western handle (e.g., classic Wusthof handle) or Japanese handle?
    western

    What length of knife (blade) are you interested in (in inches or millimetres)?
    from 100 to 210mm

    Do you require a stainless knife? (Yes or no)
    yes, semi-stainless may be OK

    What is your absolute maximum budget for your knife?
    not more than $100 per knife


    KNIFE USE
    Do you primarily intend to use this knife at home or a professional environment?
    home

    What are the main tasks you primarily intend to use the knife for:
    cutiing & slicing vegetables, cheese, salami, occasionally some meet slicing. Probably no deboning. No fish.

    What knife, if any, are you replacing?
    Some old, crappy, no name knives.

    Do you have a particular grip that you primarily use?
    hammer

    What cutting motions do you primarily use?
    push cut, slice

    What improvements do you want from your current knife?
    edge holding

    Comfort
    knives should not be too heavy and with acceptable F&F. Nothing fancy.

    Ease of Use
    No particular expectations.

    Edge Retention
    yes please

    KNIFE MAINTENANCE
    Do you use a bamboo, wood, rubber, or synthetic cutting board?
    Yes

    Do you sharpen your own knives?
    Yes I do. But the knives may be occasionally be sharpened by unexperienced users, so I consider sharpening rod for those occasions as there is less chance to screw up than with a stone. Once I will visit I will take care of the knives. But that will not be more often than once a year.

    Are you interested in purchasing sharpening products for your knives?
    Maybe a sharpening rod, I have my stones already.


    SPECIAL REQUESTS/COMMENTS

    Now comes the important part. These knives I am looking for are meant for our family cottage (in mountains) which has visitors maybe 10 weeks a year. That also means that any semi-decent blade that does not get abused to death will stay reasonably sharp for around a year. I also plan to install a wooden magnetic holder, so that the knives do not get thrown in a drawer with all possible other kitchen utensils. It does not make sense to buy too fancy/expensive knives. While the family will appreciate sharp knives, they do not really have the knowledge to take care of them properly. Also - here and there burglars visit the cottage too and too fancy looking knives could attract unwanted attention.

    I would actually prefer to buy in Germany or at least EU, but the class of reasonably priced yet good quality knives is nearly completely absent here. I will be testing some Robert Herder (Windmuehlenmesser) knives, but other than that - I can not think of anything worth buying in this price category

    Knives I am looking into:
    - 100 mm paring
    - 120 - 150 mm petty (maybe two of these)
    - 165 mm santoku or 180 mm gyuto.

    I am thinking of something along the lines:
    - Kanetsugu ProM
    - JCK Kagayaki ES
    - Fujiwara FKM
    - Kagayaki CarboNext

    Obvious advantage of JCK is cheap ($7 for DHL Express - how is that even possible?) shipping.

    I have recently bought Fujiwara FKM honesuki for my own use and was pleasantly surprised with the F&F and the blade seems fine too. A bit butt-heavy because of the thick stock and massive stainless bolster, but the blade seems decent.

    As said above - I will also look in the Robert Herder knives - I have just shortly tested their low-end (22 Euro) 100 mm stainless pairing knife and was sincerely disappointed (blade had no stiffness and arrived blunt, the handle did not fit well). Their 'K Series' should be HRC60 in stainless - maybe that will work.

    I am opened to suggestions - I would gladly buy from our vendors - but the price category I am looking into is a bit on the low end of their spectrum. The Asahi Home Set from JKI looks interesting for example.

    thank you

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    Don't forget about Victorinox: affordable and can handle some abuse pretty well.

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    You can buy few Hiromoto Gingami n3 series. They are nor flashy and around your price bracket.
    http://www.japanesechefsknife.com/Pa...ml#GingamiNo.3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruso View Post
    You can buy few Hiromoto Gingami n3 series. They are nor flashy and around your price bracket.
    http://www.japanesechefsknife.com/Pa...ml#GingamiNo.3
    all sold out

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    My brother lives in Germany and a couple of years ago I bought for him some fiskars knives (the black ones) I found in amazon.de. Last year I went there and sharpened the knives. I was kind of impresed as they still had som edge (but for an almost whole year of heavy home use was really good) The paring and petty have very nice profiles and the breadknife works really good.

    They are not Kanetsugu or Fujiwara but worked really well for my brother and his family and I thought since I bought them via amazon.de... Also you could buy a whole "set" with 100$

    JJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by pullox View Post
    My brother lives in Germany and a couple of years ago I bought for him some fiskars knives (the black ones) I found in amazon.de. Last year I went there and sharpened the knives. I was kind of impresed as they still had som edge (but for an almost whole year of heavy home use was really good) The paring and petty have very nice profiles and the breadknife works really good.

    They are not Kanetsugu or Fujiwara but worked really well for my brother and his family and I thought since I bought them via amazon.de... Also you could buy a whole "set" with 100$

    JJ
    Do you mean THESE ones? How heavy are they?

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    Tanaka VG10 from Metal Master would be good...probably the sharpest stainless blade you will ever get, the handle is not so great, but the blade is superb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matus View Post
    all sold out
    not all, small petty, 160mm santoku, 240mm gyuto amongst others still available.

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    Those.

    Pretty light, blade with a little flex. Again, like IKEA, they are great "family" knives.

    I actually would recomend the paring. Even the petty for a bar knife. Nice profile, German knives with no belly

    JJ

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