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    Masakage Shimo Demo Knife, I purchased, flaws exposed...

    I bought this knife with the impression that I was getting a basically flawless knife that was lightly used in a demonstration video. It was advertised on the site as a demo knife. However when I got the knife I noticed a crack in the cladding toward the tip of the blade.

    MrKinfeFanatic goes on in his video raving about the fit and finish yet fails to expose this somewhat major flaw. Although it is likely only a cosmetic blemish it is on the knife and should have been spoken about in the video. Pause the video at 18 seconds. Look towards the rockwell specs and half an inch from the tip. There is a little black line that looks like some dirt or hair. That's a crack in the cladding. I attached a photo, it's not easy to photograph, it looks worse in person than the photo suggests.

    Isn't it funny how he disabled comments? After pointing this out and expressing disappointment on the forum I was issued a permanent ban.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X65dA9waTk

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1ftisy&s=8#.U6xjM-hRfIU

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    Did you contact them directly and ask to return it based on them providing incomplete information on the condition of the knife?
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    I was offered a refund however, I wanted to try the white steel again one more day and had an accident at work. The blade chipped and had to be repaired, so I kept it simply because it wouldn't be right returning a re-shaped knife. I just want to point out that the behavior of a particular vendor, doesn't take kindly to criticisms of his products.

    If you aren't shilling for him on his forums, you'll likely be banned. It should be noted that reviewer of the knife obviously did not discuss the crack in the top of the cladding. As small as it is, we are talking about a three hundred dollar knife.

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    Masakage are great knives. I own a shimo 150mm petty and its without any imperfections.

    I do agree they should have mentioned the defect in the cladding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umberto View Post
    I was offered a refund however, I wanted to try the white steel again one more day and had an accident at work. The blade chipped and had to be repaired, so I kept it simply because it wouldn't be right returning a re-shaped knife. I just want to point out that the behavior of a particular vendor, doesn't take kindly to criticisms of his products.

    If you aren't shilling for him on his forums, you'll likely be banned. It should be noted that reviewer of the knife obviously did not discuss the crack in the top of the cladding. As small as it is, we are talking about a three hundred dollar knife.
    This forum largely exists due to issues with that vendor, so at the end of the day it is no great surprise. But he did offer a refund so he was willing to make you whole. The banning due to comments on the forum is a crappy way to operate, but as a businessman at least he offered to make things right with you. The issue of whether or not he was being deceitful depends on whether or not one believes the reviewer checked the knife thoroughly enough to pick up on the issue. Good chance they did not.
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    To Marks defense he did try to make it right and also tried to prevent a forum ban however the 7 other inmates at the asylum decided to give me the boot. Personally I think product shilling ought to be done independently of business owners. I'm just a bit irked that the reviewer had my knife, the same very knife and failed to mention the imperfection in the cladding. Perhaps the crack is from the hammering process, or maybe when it was quenched...I don't know.

    I like the knife enough but will hopefully sell it to somebody at a good discount in hopes they will gain a good appreciation of Hitachi steels.

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    People who have seen enough of your posts here can likely deduce that refusing to shill was not what got you banned there.

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    I'm somewhat surprised you didn't get the boot here after your thread disparaging Mr. Martell. You don't need to kick sand everywhere you go.
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    Umberto, let me be blunt here. I hope I don't offend the forum members either, but you earned a ban there - nothing anybody else did.

    You have a habit of running around laying blame on everybody else but yourself. How many knives is this now? 3? 4? that have gotten messed up by you at work, but its always somebody elses fault? I can think of at least two on the other forum, this and maybe another here. Also your thread lambasting Dave Martell.

    "If everybody else is always the problem, perhaps its time to look in the mirror"

    You want to make it in the industry? Either be prepared to work at a hack joint, get fired from high quality places repeatedly, or look up the term humble. Learn to put your ******* head down and shut up kid.

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    Accidents happen with knives, they are meant to be used. Personally I still would like to see some evidence that Moritaka has terrible holes and grinds. The lack of supporting evidence just doesn't exist. I find it funny that Dave Martell said he would no longer sharpen Moritaka then he changes his tune and say's he'll sharpen them for an inflated fee. Either you sharpen knives, or you don't.

    I think it's dishonest to denigrate a company for bad products on a forum and not even provide one iota of visual proof of anything being flawed. Where are the holes in the grind? I'm not buying it. Is it so much to ask for proof of overgrinds and holes in the blade? A good digital camera should be able to capture these problems. Dave also went on to say a Takeda knife was not able to be sharpened...then the knife goes and get's sharpened by another guy and the client is happy.

    So either he's lying or his isn't. I am not inclined to believe Moritaka knives are as bad as he says.

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