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    It seems that this thread would be a good place to ask the following question - are all Kato gyuto knives available via JNS designed as 'workhorse'? My concern is the weight as 270g is definitely more that I would like a 240mm gyuto to weight

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    That's kind of where I was going with this as well. 9.5 oz is really heavy German territory. I've noticed non-JNS Kato 240s are about 1.5 oz lighter

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    They don't feel heavy during use. And It's my understanding that Maxim has them made to his specs, as such they are only available in that weight range (and only available on his site in that style). Never heard of anyone doing a special order, which makes me think it would've happened by now considering some of the deep pockets that hang out around here. I could be wrong... Somebody please prove me wrong...

    My 240 Kato is the one knife that I've sold over the last year, that I truly regret letting go of during my search for new gyutos. And that included: A new batch DT, Pierre Midtech, old school Masamoto KS, and Itonomonn Kurouchi(as well as a couple passarounds: Watanabe pro, Singatrin, and one or two that I've forgotten because they didn't impress me). All very fairly different in terms of grind, and weight. But none held a candle, both in terms of feel, performance, and edge retention to the Kato IMO(Watanabe was in the ballpark). I stopped my search last fall with a Kasumi Shig. It's the only other gyuto I've used thus far that has the same character, and level of performance. You really can't compare the two, as the edge retention on the shig is nowhere near the Kato. And the Shig weighs at least 30-40 grams less. But they're both the most unique feeling gyutos I've worked with. Both have a very singular character, and that nice wow factor when cutting(and chunkier emotos, which is a must IMO)

    I'm definitely picking up another Kato at the end of the summer when I get my loyalty bonus...

    Miss that sucker...
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    Quote Originally Posted by brainsausage View Post
    I stopped my search last fall with a Kasumi Shig. It's the only other gyuto I've used thus far that has the same character, and level of performance. You really can't compare the two, as the edge retention on the shig is nowhere near the Kato. And the Shig weighs at least 30-40 grams less. But they're both the most unique feeling gyutos I've worked with. Both have a very singular character, and that nice wow factor when cutting(and chunkier emotos, which is a must IMO)
    Couldn't agree more about the neck. One of the first, and most pleasing things I noticed about my Shig. Absolutely smitten with the knife and, is by far the best blade in my block (which is admittedly far smaller/less seasoned than yours). But, like you, the I approach I take to knife connoisseurship is to sample many variants of a given pattern (in this case gyuto), to better my understand the nuances of the blade and, ultimately, define what my ideal knife is. To that end, from what I have heard/read about Kato blades, I would be remiss if I didn't grab one.

    Side note, Tosho and CKTG both carry Kato knives with different weight profiles (can't really tell if the edge profile and blade geometry differs) from JNS. Both sites claim White #1 for the steel. I get a little skeptical of the JNS line when I can't get answers to some very basic questions about the knife. I'm not questioning whether or not they are Katos, but it does raise some flags inre steel, quality, comparative performance etc., when some very basic questions about the knife seemingly can't/won't be answered.

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    You can use the JNS website to ask Maxim questions in real time if he is available. If he isnt online he always gets back in touch via email promptly with whatever questions you may have. Or you can PM him here. Or you can even start a thread in his sub forum.

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    Emailed him multiple times with no response. A bit discouraging to be honest. Doesn't exactly endear me to his product. Especially when Tosho, CKTG, Japan Woodworker etc. are all reliable, and responsive alternatives.

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    He lost a potential sale on a Shigefusa, and will likely lose one on a Kato as a result

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    Guess losing a sale on either smith doesn't mean a lot as both sell quick, but that is short sighted. Tosho can thank JNS for the Kato 240 purchase (in stock on both sites) as Maxim couldn't be bothered to respond to multiple info requests for weeks.

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    Update, purchased a 210 from CKTG.

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    You've made your point guy. Hope you enjoy your knives.
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