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Thread: What defines a beginner finishing stone? Rika 5k, Arashiyama 6k, Gesshin 4k & 6k?

  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by rami_m View Post
    + 1. you get the beginner set. Then you want bits and pieces to polish and get the edges perfect. Then you wonder what the heck is special about natural stones. Then it's too late.
    It's like you are describing my life right now. I'm completely satisfied with my current sharpening. I dont need more stones at all. Yet, I'm still considering some j nats...

  2. #12
    I believe you get what you pay for with natural stones. Synthetic stones it honestly does not matter so much as far as branding as long as the particles are well held together. The reality is that synthetic stones are a cost effective way to insure uniform particle size.

    Rika, Arashiyama, Gesshin are all more than likely manufactured using very similar methods of manufacture.What really matters is how you use the stones, keeping them flat, using good technique to keep the stones uniform. Subjectively people prefer how various synthetics brands feel when sharpening but that is not relevant because ultimately what matters is how the edge cuts.

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by CutFingers View Post
    I believe you get what you pay for with natural stones. Synthetic stones it honestly does not matter so much as far as branding as long as the particles are well held together. The reality is that synthetic stones are a cost effective way to insure uniform particle size.

    Rika, Arashiyama, Gesshin are all more than likely manufactured using very similar methods of manufacture.What really matters is how you use the stones, keeping them flat, using good technique to keep the stones uniform. Subjectively people prefer how various synthetics brands feel when sharpening but that is not relevant because ultimately what matters is how the edge cuts.
    I don't agree with this at all. Kind of a strange statement.

    I own multiple stones in each coarse/med/fine grit range and they all differ in feel, speed, behavior, & resulting edge.

    I'd say that is definitely relevant...

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by CutFingers View Post
    I believe you get what you pay for with natural stones. Synthetic stones it honestly does not matter so much as far as branding as long as the particles are well held together. The reality is that synthetic stones are a cost effective way to insure uniform particle size.

    Rika, Arashiyama, Gesshin are all more than likely manufactured using very similar methods of manufacture.What really matters is how you use the stones, keeping them flat, using good technique to keep the stones uniform. Subjectively people prefer how various synthetics brands feel when sharpening but that is not relevant because ultimately what matters is how the edge cuts.
    If you mean that similar method is abrasive + binding then you are correct.
    But keep in mind that there are many different abrasive materials. Different binding materials. Different proportions of each. And I am sure different manufacture process depending on selection of former.

    It's like saying that all the cars are manufactured using very similar methods since they all will get you from point A to point B.

  5. #15
    Exactly my pont Ruso...a slow cutting stone will still get you to the same apex as a faster cutting medium. I guess what I'm trying to say is the nature of what constitutes a beginner stone is experience not brand name. An experienced sharpener with keen attention to detail can likely bring a great edge on any brand of stone. But people all like to have a different sense of feel when sharpening.

    I think Murry Carter is right when emphasizes technique not equipment because the end result is always going to be the same if you do a good job of paying attention to what the edges are doing.

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