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    Quote Originally Posted by mr drinky View Post
    This 4000 is really tempting me.

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    Based on the picture of the stones stacked up on the floor of his shop on his FB page, he probably ordered 20 4k stones. That was two weeks ago so I wonder how many Jon has left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99Limited View Post
    Based on the picture of the stones stacked up on the floor of his shop on his FB page, he probably ordered 20 4k stones. That was two weeks ago so I wonder how many Jon has left.
    Hey 99, what are you doing? Now you have made it an emergency in my mind because Jon might only have one left. Stoking that fire wasn't necessary

    What you should have said is this: "Hey, Drinky, you have plenty of time to make up your mind and consider the pros and cons. Maybe you should sharpen a couple of knives today and see if you really need that stone. If it's a good fit, go for it, but don't be hasty. Also, you may want to consider your kids. Put that money in a 529 instead and watch it slowly grow in value and hope your kids go to college...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr drinky View Post
    Hey 99, what are you doing? Now you have made it an emergency in my mind because Jon might only have one left. Stoking that fire wasn't necessary

    What you should have said is this: "Hey, Drinky, you have plenty of time to make up your mind and consider the pros and cons. Maybe you should sharpen a couple of knives today and see if you really need that stone. If it's a good fit, go for it, but don't be hasty. Also, you may want to consider your kids. Put that money in a 529 instead and watch it slowly grow in value and hope your kids go to college...."

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    If your kids want to go to college, let them pay for it themselves. My wife and I had to pay for our own education and it didn't kill us. Besides, the rate of growth on a 529 right now could easily be make up by adding more money later after you've acquired all the stones and knives you need. The cost of the Gesshin 4000 wouldn't even cover the cost of one book that would only be used one semester.

    Ring, ring... hello "What's that Jon, you said you just sold a couple more stones. Okay, I'll tell Drinky he better hurry up before he misses out. Bye".

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    Yeah, I think 529s are sort of a scam. I paid for my own college too (through the military). I do have a 529, but the fees on many of them are terrible and they play on the parental fears of future college costs to the benefit of fund managers. If it weren't for my divorce decree, I'd probably ditch it. A famous economist said once about extrapolating future costs: "Something that cannot go on forever will not go on forever." A college semester won't cost a million dollars in 18 years.

    Now I have to buy my stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyChance View Post
    With all the stones you have at your disposal Jon, do you find yourself working up through the gesshin line, or do you like to mix and match? So far my gesshin 5k plays well with others, but I was just wondering if you liked using them in succession or do you work other brands/types into your regular lineup as well.
    I find that i use mostly gesshin stones with a few exceptions (my 500 grit diamond stone and my naturals for the most part)... more often than not, i only have to use 3-4 stones to get the results i want (sometimes less if the blade is not too damaged)

    I like the soakers a lot, but i use the splash and go when i am looking for specific results that they do better

    oh... and we still have quite a few of the 4000 in stock

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    So what do you recommend as the next step after the 2K?
    "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Albert Einstein

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    i use either the 4 or 5k gesshin depending on what i am looking for... i often stop there for unless i am in need of something with a finer edge (for myself)... for customers, it always depends... i always talk to them about what kind of edge they are looking for and then do that

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    i just got my 4k and let me just say, wow...

    its actually quite amazing. the only thing about this stone that would make me think it is actually a 4k is the finish it leaves on the bevel. it has that nice hazy finish but also has quite a nice sheen to it.

    what doesn't feel like 4k is its reaction and feel when you are using it as well as the finished edge it provides. it works so fast for a 4k....seemingly faster than a bester 1200. on top of that it gave me an edge that felt much cleaner than a traditional 4kish feeling more like a rika or something similar.

    the final edge is something that ive been looking forward to and it does not disappoint. after a few onions, tomatoes, potatoes, carrots and pretty much all the other produce i could pry from my wife got the business and it was beautiful. clean feeling through tomato skin and falling through a carrot just doesn't make sense to me as ive not had an edge be able to do that yet.

    i like it and think the other two soakers (400 and 2k) will replace all but my arashiyama and kitayama (for my single bevels) as soon as jon gets them in.

    the videos do not do it justice, if you live by jon go try one out...its a pleasure to use.

    i would like to note that i have only had it one day and cannot wait to get used to this stone and have it get more use. it did wonders on the konosuke HD as well as AEB-L.

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    I can't wait to use mine. It just came in yesterday but it arrived right when I was oiling all of my boards, so I was afraid to touch it with all the oil and messy fingers around. I drew the water for a new bath later on though, so she is soaking and hopefully I will get to try her out today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr drinky View Post
    I can't wait to use mine. It just came in yesterday but it arrived right when I was oiling all of my boards, so I was afraid to touch it with all the oil and messy fingers around. I drew the water for a new bath later on though, so she is soaking and hopefully I will get to try her out today.

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    I'm glad to see you caved in to temptation on this. I also received my stone yesterday and within five minutes of getting it, it was soaking in the sink. I used it on my Kono white #2 and my Ealy Damascus gyuto. On my Kono, it left a sharp enough edge that I could push cut the WSJ, which is my paper of choice to test my edges. On my Ealy, I actually cut a new bevel with the 4k. This stone kind of reminds me of the 1.2k Bester in it's cutting ability but leaves a finer finish, easily something you use without further work. The Gesshin 4k stone is exactly what I was looking for in filling the gap between the 1.2k Bester and my 6k Arashiyama.

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