Getting any stock even down to 1/8 with anything other than a power hammer or rolling mill is a pain. that is not an issue if you are buying thin monosteel, but if you are making damascus, you would need to get it down to at least 3/16 and then surface grind it. I have a 20 ton press and it doesn't like to go much below 3-8 to 1/2 on wide stock with the dies that I have now. You end up with a lot of scale on the floor when you go thinner. I am getting a 25 pound Little Giant up and running and that will help, particularly with widening stuff out, but if I had LOTS of money, I would buy a bigger press, like 50 tons, a rolling mill and a Say Mak power hammer tomorrow!!!