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    Quote Originally Posted by sachem allison View Post
    I use a 3x18X22 hard rock maple board, no glue. It is actually held together with 4 threaded rods and nuts that run the width of the board. The ends are counter sunk and the holes plugged with dowels and flush sanded smooth. One hell of a board.
    Where can I find such a board?

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    Delbert,
    I was considering doing some like you said. Arranging the end grain patterns to form designs like they do with veneer for high end tabletops.

    My biggest questions are size and if things like feet, groove around edge to catch blood & juices, ability to stand on edge when not in use, stuff like that were important.

    Bert,
    I understand that Boardsmith makes great cutting boards.
    My goal is to use wood I have on hand and my own labor to make a few boards for us here.

    My understanding about end grain is that it is not as abusive to the knife edge because the blade edge goes between the wood fibers instead of against the harder surface resulting in less wear on the blade.

    There were a few comments about less glue joints.
    Is that a cosmetic or a mechanical issue. The reason I ask is because properly joined pieces will not show a glue line.
    I kind of like the idea of a "Take Down" sort of board with none or very few glued joints that could be taken apart and re assembled.

    My concern about a 3 inch thick board is weight. A board 18 x 22 x 3 in maple or walnut would probably weigh about 15 or 20 pounds.

    I am not looking to make a butcher block, but more like a cutting board for everyday use at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burl Source View Post

    There were a few comments about less glue joints.
    Is that a cosmetic or a mechanical issue. The reason I ask is because properly joined pieces will not show a glue line.
    I kind of like the idea of a "Take Down" sort of board with none or very few glued joints that could be taken apart and re assembled.
    My understanding is an extension of your understanding of the end-grain advantage -- that is, more glue joints means the knife edge encounters more glue and relatively less end-grain wood. And the glue is harder and your edge than the wood. (I have a pretty end-grain board with small pieces, so... lusting after a better, if not necessarily better-looking, board, in that regard).

    I don't really get what you have in mind with a "take-down" board. Really just assemble squares of wood that are not joined, each time??

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    What I meant with a Take Down board was to use longer pieces of end grain pieces and instead of gluing the strips of wood together, drill some holes going all the way through and hold together with pressure using hidden bolts and some sort of removable cover over the bolt ends.

    I don't really know how well it will work until I try it.
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    Mark,
    Even with properly clamped boards there is still a bit of glue there and the glue is rough on edges. I don't think its necessary to make a take-down board, but one that is put together without glue is very appealing. I like the idea of a grooved board, but I think some may not like it, maybe just offer that as an option. You can always add it later. I think you would satisfy most with boards that are about 2 inches thick. Three inch boards maybe for a custom option.
    I don't like feet, but I think I am in the minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99Limited View Post
    That sucker ought to have some weight to it. Got any pictures?
    Yeah it's not something you like to move around and you damn sure don't want to drop it. Unfortunately I just moved into a tiny NYC apartment and had to leave the board with my dad in Cali. I'll call him up and see if he would be willing to take pictures. He is a little persnickety these days.lol So that might not happen. God I can't wait to get old so I can justify my persnicketyusness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burl Source View Post
    Delbert,
    I was considering doing some like you said. Arranging the end grain patterns to form designs like they do with veneer for high end tabletops.

    My biggest questions are size and if things like feet, groove around edge to catch blood & juices, ability to stand on edge when not in use, stuff like that were important.

    Bert,
    I understand that Boardsmith makes great cutting boards.
    My goal is to use wood I have on hand and my own labor to make a few boards for us here.

    My understanding about end grain is that it is not as abusive to the knife edge because the blade edge goes between the wood fibers instead of against the harder surface resulting in less wear on the blade.

    There were a few comments about less glue joints.
    Is that a cosmetic or a mechanical issue. The reason I ask is because properly joined pieces will not show a glue line.
    I kind of like the idea of a "Take Down" sort of board with none or very few glued joints that could be taken apart and re assembled.

    My concern about a 3 inch thick board is weight. A board 18 x 22 x 3 in maple or walnut would probably weigh about 15 or 20 pounds.

    I am not looking to make a butcher block, but more like a cutting board for everyday use at home.
    I think that The very minimum Thickness that you could do the take down board would be about 1.5 inches, I think much thinner and you run the risk of actually cracking the board. It runs on the principle of post tension as you tighten the bolts it straightens the wood and compresses it together giving a tight fit and rigid board. If you over tighten the resulting pressure and strain will cause the board to buckle if you don't use glue, crack if you do. The alternative is to use long dovetails or tongue and grooves that run the length of the board and then you can do the rods and nuts. This way you get the best of both worlds no glue and an incredibly strong board that will never warp or break.
    You have to realize that not all people take care of there equipment properly, either through ignorance or laziness. I can
    t tell you how many warped wooden boards I have seen because people leave them in the sink and don't even get me started on those damn bamboo boards. ( great in principle, poor in execution and materials) Just my 2 cents worth. hope it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tk59 View Post
    Where can I find such a board?
    I can't help you with that. That board is over a hundred years old. I bought it on the Bowery in nyc about ten years ago the first time I moved to New York. I think it may have come out of an old Deli.

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    Just want to make it clear that I will not be making boards for sale other than a few to go in our shop here. People who are set up to make boards regularly such as the Boardsmith are able to give you a lot more for your money than I would be able to.

    The boards I will make are just to keep my boss happy and allow me to do something a bit more creative than cutting and sanding blocks for a couple days.
    I figured if I was going to make a few it would be best to get functional input from you guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burl Source View Post
    Just want to make it clear that I will not be making boards for sale other than a few to go in our shop here. People who are set up to make boards regularly such as the Boardsmith are able to give you a lot more for your money than I would be able to.

    The boards I will make are just to keep my boss happy and allow me to do something a bit more creative than cutting and sanding blocks for a couple days.
    I figured if I was going to make a few it would be best to get functional input from you guys.
    Please have your camera ready and post pics of your creations, Mark.
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