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    Thanks for all the responses!

    Wow I had no idea he had ripped off so many of us, this is really not right. I believe he is a good guy, but I feel that he should not be allowed to operate on this forum anymore.

    You are right and the money should not have been spent, it shouldn't have been placed in escrow. This is extremely unprofessional and honestly theft among a lot of us.

    I can understand his condition and I do feel bad for him, however this was a business transaction.

    I'm in Florida so it would be quite hard to do anything about it... I would honestly consider legal action if possible considering I'm finding out there are numerous members here that have been ripped off.

    It really sucks overall.


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    Gentlemen, in light of Pierre's current medical situation, please allow him a little time to collect his thoughts and respond to the concerns raised in this thread.
    This is not a veiled request to 'back off', but please be mindful that this is a sensitive issue that could unintentionally go way off topic.
    Thanks for understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdipisReks View Post
    lol, what? I guess only deaf, dumb, and blind robots need apply at forums. I will provide a translation, for deaf, dumb, and blind robots on the forum, who are unbiased.

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    Pierre owes the money back, at this point. The contract has been breached. The ethical and legal position is that Pierre owes the money back. Whether Jgraeff can compel compliance is another issue altogether. I don't know where Jgraeff lives, but if he doesn't live in Canada, litigation is unlikely to be cost effective. It sucks that Pierre is sick, and it sucks that Jgraeff has been the victim of a breach of contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecchef View Post
    Gentlemen, in light of Pierre's current medical situation, please allow him a little time to collect his thoughts and respond to the concerns raised in this thread.
    This is not a veiled request to 'back off', but please be mindful that this is a sensitive issue that could unintentionally go way off topic.
    Thanks for understanding.
    Ecchef,

    I respect what you are asking here, and I agree and will allow time for him to respond, however it shouldn't be viewed as in poor him etc etc. there have been many of us that have been "ripped off" and we deserve to be repaid or to be given the knives we ordered. Poor
    Health can only go so far, I do really feel for the guy and I can understand he's having hard times. I am as well, I live on a 25k salary, pay child support etc. everyone has there problems but it doesn't make what is going on here ok.

    This will be my last post for now, I appreciate everyone's views and concerns and I hope this eill work out for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThEoRy View Post
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    EChef, I've been thinking about how to express what you just said very well. I'm not wearing my moderator hat but can see no purpose in piling on and taking the thread away from it's original intent. Let Pierre respond and go from there.

    J, I hope this resolves to your satisfaction.

    For the binary guys - I wrote a love letter back in college using Hollerith cards. Did not get me laid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daveb View Post
    For the binary guys - I wrote a love letter back in college using Hollerith cards. Did not get me laid.
    Oh crap, you must be as old as me...I remember having to write a program just to be able to write a document...thought these computer thingies would never be useful...
    once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right

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    Good morning guys.I got an email notification of some activity on the forum, so I logged in. I admit I havnt been there to contact you all lately,and I owe an opology.Honestly I cant remember ever feeling this $hitty about the position I put myself in, and have left a few of you in. I havent been in the shop since May. In reality its been a bad year or so for me, I wont get into the details. I really respect those of you giving me the benifit of a doubt so to speek, thank you. Those feeling jaded, or offering legal advice, I respect that to, and understand your points of view.
    Financially, things are worse than tight, I'm falling behind monthly. I have dipped into every resource I have to stay on top. Again I'm not going into details. I had a CT scan, as I mentioned in another post, and am expecting some sort of surgery to come from the results. Between the results coming back, and "whenever" our medical system gets its ducks in a row, I plan to get as much done as I can. Right now my lungs arent playing nice, I lost my sense of smell, and am seriously short of breath.

    Yes I'm an a$$hole. Yes I have handled things inadequately. My communication has been poor, I havent been on line much at all, hoping absence would maybe let some time pass, till I had something productive to show, or to say.

    If you can bear with me, I will fill your orders. All I ask is understanding and time. I will strive to keep communication lines more open. Again my bad.

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    If anyone gets it, I do, Pierre. You're an honest guy who is having a **** year. You'll get it straightened out.

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    This situation is challenging for everyone.
    I really hope that something can be worked out that is satisfactory, if not ideal, for all involved.
    Pierre, wishing you the best in your recovery--hope your health improves quickly. And (as someone not directly involved), I see a sincere desire to be able to fulfill these orders for your customers.


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