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    Bob Kramer Custom Damascus knife

    Hi

    I happened to drop onto the Bob Kramer site, are his knives highly regarded in terms of function as well as beauty ?

    What would be a tpical price for one of his 10 inch chef knives ?

    Alan

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    That is a good question. The answer is $4000 with over three years wait, or up to $50000 if you bid and win one of Bob Kramer auctions that happen every two to three months.


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    too crazy to be true, but it's real.

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    If you don't care about the damascus steel (more aesthetics than performance difference compared to straight steel), Zwilling makes a very nice Kramer line that mimics his customs pretty well. A 10" chef's knife in 52100 steel is $350.
    "God sends meat and the devil sends cooks." - Thomas Deloney

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyChance View Post
    If you don't care about the damascus steel (more aesthetics than performance difference compared to straight steel), Zwilling makes a very nice Kramer line that mimics his customs pretty well. A 10" chef's knife in 52100 steel is $350.
    Wow, no wonder i liked the look of them !!! $4,000 is a S**t load of cake for a knife no matter how good.

    Is there another custom maker who prices for sale on this planet, that makes something of similar quality or is Kramer out on his own ?

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    Many of the knife makers in this forum produce work on the same level if not better than Kramer. All are phenominal to talk to and work with! Take a look at the vendor section and ask some more questions.

    If you are dead set on a Kramer you can get a carbon 52100 for substiantially less than the damascus. Custom carbon Kramers run about $150.00/inch

    I hope you find what you are looking for.

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    Bill Burke, Devin Thomas, Delbert Ealy, Michael Rader, Pierre Rodrigue and more all make damascus and high quality kitchen knives. If you do not want a damascus blade, the list grows even more (Dave Martell, Marko Tsourkan, Butch Harner, etc), and there are more and more guys every day who are making their own straight steel knives, or have made damascus for other types of knives and are now making kitchen knives.

    But that should give you a pretty good start.
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    Haha. Like JC mentioned, this is a good time for you to show up looking for custom makers.

    So far, the only American makers putting out excellent custom knives that I can vouch for are Murray Carter and Devin Thomas. Tilman Leder (Rottman on this forum also makes an excellent knife. He's german.) In a few days, I may be able to vouch for Delbert Ealy. I know he makes a good knife and he has been making great strides. There may be Japanese customs you can access through an importer such as Jon Broida with Japanese Knife Imports.


    After that, I can say Michael Rader, Stephan Fowler and Adam Marr are at least close to making some excellent knives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tk59 View Post
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    After that, I can say Michael Rader, Stephan Fowler and Adam Marr are at least close to making some excellent knives.
    Give Michael Rader a benefit of a doubt. He is a different class where you placed him.

    Devin Thomas makes the best damascus in my opinion, plus, he can make san mai that looks like Japanese san mai, without hills and dales, and he can also forge weld a solid edge on a damascus body.

    Moreover, he has one of the best heat treatment and makes some of the finest kitchen knives. At $120 and inch, his knives are relative bargain.

    Bob Kramer knives won't cut better than Devin Thomas knives, but people buy them because they were made by Bob Kramer.

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    There are lots of quality knives, but what qualities are you looking for?

    It has taken Bob a long time to build his reputation enough to charge $400/inch for a knife. His chefs knife in particular is distinctive. You will find that the profile is polarizing. You either like it or hate it. His handles are also quite large which may or may not be a good thing for you.

    There aren't many kitchen knife makers that forge their own damascus( Ealy, Thomas, Rader, Burke, Haas, sorry if I'm leaving anyone out). For some reason, they also don't make it a habit to post pricing information publicly. You need to contact them for a quote.
    Dave has a couple of Delbert Ealy 240mm gyutos for sale here
    http://www.japaneseknifesharpeningst...gory-s/112.htm
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