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    What is the catch

    Hi

    Looking at these knives online they appear to have all the qualities of significantly higher price knives. Could you advuse what am i missing please ?

    http://www.japanesechefsknife.com/FKHSeries.html

    They appear to be equivalent at $81 to a $200-300 Gyuto.

    There is always a catch, what is it please ?

    Alan

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    The things you are paying extra for with say a $300 Masamoto? Geometry, profile, edge retention, fit and finish, less reactive steel. Fujiwaras are decent value knives, but at the same time, I think the more expensive knives are still worth the money. I have a $145 JCK KV8 and I have a $400 Watanabe. Which is worth the money? Both of them

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    Fujiwara (both FKM and FKH) are what I like to recommend to people just starting out. The ones you posted have great profiles and fit/finish for their price, but they are lacking in the steel department. SK4 has much more impurities versus the higher end carbons...both my FKHs I owned previously always had an odor/flavor when cutting anything remotely acidic, but I still have my FKM(stainless) honesuki and my travel knife is my FKM suji.

    Edge taking is pretty good and retention is average. I love Fujiwara for what they are--you will see many posts from me here or on the other forums saying if they made these in a semi-stainless like the TKC/CN, they would be my favorite yo-handled knives.

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    They don't perfect the finish, the design is geared more towards function and simplicity rather than nuanced performance. They are plain looking. They are made in a factory. The steel isn't top-notch, nor is the heat treat.

    Honestly, for 80% of cooks/chefs out there, this is the kind of knife you want to use and abuse. The other knives are for you to enjoy, but these will destroy some food with the best of them.

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    It's a Kia Soul. Does it get you from A to B, same as Audi A4? Sure. But is the craftsmanship as good? No. Performance? No. Does it help you with the ladies? No.
    "God sends meat and the devil sends cooks." - Thomas Deloney

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    Johnny

    Great, finally an analogy that i can relate to, cars !!

    In my life i go for fit, finish and classic type products. Im not into the fanciest showiest things but i do appreciate great quality. To give examples, I prefer my Stainless Steel Rolex Submariner over other watches because it has a timeless fit and finish. Other people would say that its overpriced but 20 years later i still love my sub and they have had 20 other watches. The same with cars, I typically purchase Audi, BMW, Lexus etc but a 5 series or A6 nothing to showy.

    So having said all that if i can relate knives to cars/watches then it will make it all very easy to understand.

    What is the ideal knife style brand that would relate to my Rolex ? if you said say the MAC Ultimate you would make me very happy, if you said it had to be one of the higher grade Japanese knives please could you select a couple of brands and ranges, i like the JCK store, prices seem to be reasonable. Things that im looking for im my new Gyuto are fit/finish, I prefer a thin blade ( have a MAC Cleaver ), western handle ( thicker the better ), would like Damascus but only for cosmetic, im only a home cook so its light use but i want something that I can be proud of for 20 years and will never second guess again. Im willing to pay a reasonable amount for a 240-270 mm knife, anywhere from $100-$500, as much as i need to fulfill the criteria of never having to worry if i bought a great knife

    Alan

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    Looking at your criteria I'd get a Hattori FH. Impeccable fit and finish, totally awesome Western handle and VG10 blade which is pretty solid. It isn't laserish thin and isn't Damascus which means it doesn't tick all your boxes, but it is a very good knife. It is also fairly reasonably priced.

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    Steven

    Thanks, ive never heard of Hattori but a quick scan around seems to indicate they are very good. What about the HD range? same price and Damascus, its just that it seems thicker and heavier, do you think its a bad trade off for cosmetics ?

    alan

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    Shigefusa = Rolex in my mind. There's one for sale in the "for sale" area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFKitchenknivesguy View Post
    Shigefusa = Rolex in my mind. There's one for sale in the "for sale" area.
    That would be a killer purchase and great timing. You would certainly never want for a better performing knife.

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