The Damascus Toyama looks very similar to the Watanabe Kintaro-ame. Given the relationship between the two makers this is very understandable. If I were looking for a Damascus gyuto I would buy the Toyama without hesitation.
Unfortunately while I was sitting wondering the 210 Damascus was purchased. Snooze and you lose ;-(
Go for the 240! The giant nakiri is also tempting. I got a sujihiki as I have a mukimono and have been impressed
I went there right away but, the 210 and 240mm Gyuto's were already sold out except for the Damascus versions. Pretty nice offer if your looking for a Toyama.
Has anybody used the Damascus version of the Toyama gyuto?
Jack
For those who missed out, it looks like Maksim has added some more Toyama kasumi knives 210&240 gyuto, 270 Suji back in stock and discount still works
Thanks! Got the last 210.
Too bad there aren't more options, I am in market for a 165 petty. A Ku line would be nice too. Does Toyama offer higher f&f over wat or they about the same?
For those who missed out, it looks like Maksim has added some more Toyama kasumi knives 210&240 gyuto, 270 Suji back in stock and discount still works
It actually got nabbed not too long ago, see the post in the Toyama vs Watanabe thread:240mm is still out of stock....I want one.
Somebody snapped up the damn 240 while I was putting in my order info[emoji17]
To go with your 240?
Definitely better F&F over wat. Way better stock handles too.
Wat stock handles have a plastic ferrule unless I'm mistaken while Toyama has buffalo horn. And I'll take an octagonal handle over d shape anyday.
You don't like d handles cause you're lefty. As far as ferrule, I don't care what its made of as long as its flush with the handle.
I'm also a lefty and actually like right handed d handles mounted for right hand use when held in my left hand. I've had some installed for a lefty and didn't care for the feel
Agree. The line on a d handle is anywhere from 2/3-3/4 the way up the handle so when it's flipped it's too low and feels off. No one makes lefty d handles, they just flip a righty and it sucks.
Maksim has recently added a giant 270mm Damascus Gyuto and (lefty) Kasumi 300mm yanagi and it looks like 20% off will still work for a few more hours!
If I didn't pick up the 300 suji I would get the yanagi.
You don't like d handles cause you're lefty. As far as ferrule, I don't care what its made of as long as its flush with the handle.
On the flush part (not sure if you mean properly glued or no ledging). I've heard from a couple guys that sanding is almost considered expected on handles when they are moving to areas with different humidity levels (for non-stabilized woods, such as ho wood)
This means the ferrule and handle should definitely be fully glued together though often times a "ledge" forms from the wood contracting or expanding. I have even found this on the well regarded Shigefusa handles. Takes about 10-15 minutes with some 400 grit-> 800 grit sand paper to make the handle super flush. Then I tape off the wood and polish the horn back to a glossy finish.
This is something I know Panda is probably totally impatient about, and so probably skipped over the 2nd paragraph. Not sure if I've ever seen a plastic ferrule flush with the wood, but why not.
Oh yeah. We all like a flush wood-ferrule handle, but even if they're at first like that then a few days later they're not, and then they are again - so maybe it's dry, or drying or the weather's changed, etc.
Ferrule and handle glued - Are they? I didn't think they were, traditionally.
However, MTran, I'm interested most in your grit figures - I've polished up some horn ferrules nicely in the past, but have forgotten grits I'd had on hand. What were they, 1k? 2k?
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