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    New knife laws in the UK.....

    How do these laws affect our Knerdy fellows and vendors?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33547806
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    I'm still looking for hard facts about the changes to the law, but as far as I can tell folks carrying knives with 'good reason or lawful excuse' won't be affected. So a chef carrying a knife roll to work can (I believe) carry on as before. I haven't found any reference to changes in 'legal carry' knives either, so it appears we can still carry a folding pocket knife (no lock, cutting edge of blade not exceeding 3").

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    Side note . . . As an American, I gotta say it seems amazing that there is a country where the national discussion is about knife crime.

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    So, if a Mohel is carrying an izmel....?
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    There is a rumor that they are going to ban ball point pens as well. Those are really dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cave_dweller View Post
    I'm still looking for hard facts about the changes to the law, but as far as I can tell folks carrying knives with 'good reason or lawful excuse' won't be affected. So a chef carrying a knife roll to work can (I believe) carry on as before. I haven't found any reference to changes in 'legal carry' knives either, so it appears we can still carry a folding pocket knife (no lock, cutting edge of blade not exceeding 3").
    I'd be interested to hear if you find something odd, alarming, or stupid...
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    It's sad that carrying a kitchen knife is a crime if you're not a cook. Of course, the Yakuza and asian gangsters are always depicted in the movies carrying gyutos to do their dastardly deeds.

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    Something else which makes me very angry is posting knives from the UK. I have sold a few knives and have one I wanted to send to Tilman to have some work done to it and I simply couldn't. Royal Mail's own regulations say posting knives and kitchen utensils is fine as long as they are well packaged. A different regulation says you can't post weapons. So when I tell the person in the Post Office that it's a knife, they say it's a weapon and refuse to accept it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenStefano View Post
    Something else which makes me very angry is posting knives from the UK. I have sold a few knives and have one I wanted to send to Tilman to have some work done to it and I simply couldn't. Royal Mail's own regulations say posting knives and kitchen utensils is fine as long as they are well packaged. A different regulation says you can't post weapons. So when I tell the person in the Post Office that it's a knife, they say it's a weapon and refuse to accept it.
    I always call it a "kitchen tool". It has worked so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkdc View Post
    It's sad that carrying a kitchen knife is a crime if you're not a cook. Of course, the Yakuza and asian gangsters are always depicted in the movies carrying gyutos to do their dastardly deeds.
    Really?

    It's supposed to be tanto, although I have seen a few depicted with deba or yanagi.

    The police do have discretion, circumstances and just cause are big factors. If you're walking through the city centre at 2am with a knife hanging from your belt in a sheath then you're going to be in trouble, but if you're in the suburbs in the afternoon and have a knife roll in your bag it's generally not going to be a problem.

    I've also found that value factors into it. If you've got a generic cheap knife and you try to claim that you're walking to a friends house to prepare dinner, it's probably not going to sit too well. On the other hand, it's generally agreed that you're not going to use a £1000 hand-forged tool to shank someone when a sharpened stick would work just as well.

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