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    Thoughts on ittosai please

    Still in persuit om the ideal small gyuto, I treid the Tojiro 180mm and although the blade was great the handle was just to poorly finished for me.

    Im trying to find more details on the following please, is it thick/thin, sharp oob etc


    http://korin.com/HOT-GY?sc=22&category=52095

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    Alan

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    One of my favorite vg10 knives (gf has it now though); the profile+geometry are very good and it's really thin behind the edge. Edge retention is about average though. F&f for the knife has to be the best I've ever seen. I'm really glad it was my first j-knife.

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    James really summed up my opinions on it as well. I had a Hattori HD which is, for all intents and purposes, the same knife with a different logo. Thin, average edge retention, great finish. OOTB edge will impress you if you aren't a total sharpening junkie, and even when it's not all that sharp it "acts sharp" by the grace of it's geometry. Sharpening it isn't particularly blissful or anything, but it's not terrible--mine had a bit of a funky grind but it wasn't so bad it hurt it's performance.

    I'm also glad it was my first j-knife, but I don't regret that it's not in my kit anymore, either.

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    I agree with James. It also has a good distal taper and very thin right at the tip. The scales on mine have shrunk a little and the shiny cladding scratches a bit but It's a pretty good cutter, all around. It is apparently a Hattori HD clone. I don't use it at all other than for comparison.

    Vertigo beat me to it...

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    Hey TK59, have you compared the ittosai to other rebranded knives? I am curious to know if they really are rebranded or if something else rather than just stamping a different name is done to the knives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memorael View Post
    Hey TK59, have you compared the ittosai to other rebranded knives? I am curious to know if they really are rebranded or if something else rather than just stamping a different name is done to the knives.
    There are posts on both Foodie Forums and Knife Forums dating back as far as 2006, from people who've used both brands, with the consensus being that Ryusen is the OEM for both Ittosai and Hattori HD, and that they are in fact the same knife with different logos.

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    I have a petty. It doesn't get much attention. I hate the handle. Rehandling project?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertigo View Post
    There are posts on both Foodie Forums and Knife Forums dating back as far as 2006, from people who've used both brands, with the consensus being that Ryusen is the OEM for both Ittosai and Hattori HD, and that they are in fact the same knife with different logos.
    The reason I am asking is that there is a slight discrepancy. See the thing is the knife on korin is stated as cobalt steel and the HD is stated as vg10 and last I heard the ryusen knife is made from sg2... So I was hoping maybe there was a difference since the ittosai kinda appeals to me. I once sharpened one and thought the steel was pretty aggressive when it came to cutting stuff which is something I like, kinda reminded me of the misono ux10.

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    VG-10 is a cobalt steel.

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    +1 Ryusen is the OEM for these knives. Koki used to offer the substitution when Hattori was out of stock. I have compared Ryusen and Hattori side by side, and the only apparent difference is the Kanji.

    Some years ago, there was information that the Hattori's meant for export were tempered to lower hardness in response to complaints about chipping. I don't think this was ever confirmed.
    "Experience" is what you get when you don't get what you want.

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