guari
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So I love cooking and have loved knives from a long time. I discovered Japanese knives this last year and it's been addictive, if not hard on the wallet :lol2:
Anyhow, I moved onto J's because I was frustrated with blunt knives in the kitchen, I decided I'd go for it.
Now, it's all been a learning and discovery thing, using the whetstones, getting the knives sharp. But it is so frustrating, because I simply don't achieve an edge that will cut hair. And I'm sure it's not because of subpar knives, as they are lovely. Don't get me wrong, I get them sharp enough to slice open a finger easily (not that it ever happened, that's for another topic). But they just won't shave hair of my arm no matter what. They rather pick up superficial dermis but not the hair.
Yesterday I received a Masakage Yuki Honesuki for my chickens and guess what? I open up the package, and voila, it shaves hair from my arm.
For instance, my Gyuto, I will take it to the 2000 stone, do one side until I can feel a burr (hear it when scraped), then I go for the other side of the knife until I raise a burr there. I use the sharpie marker to see that I'm indeed hitting the edge.
Once the burr was lifted on the second side, I go to the 5000 stone, then hit it on the first side until I raise a burr (barely perceptible as it is a 5000 stone though), then the other side until I feel a burr, then trailing edge side swaps to deburr, and that's it. I have a 8000 stone in the mail but at the moment 5000 is the highest I have. I rarely use the 600 stone as I never let the knives get that dull.
I have seen the youtube videos on how to sharpen single and double bevels, I know I'm hitting the right spots as I can see the sharpie marker, I let my whetstones soak for 5 minutes, I flatten them before sharpening. My stones are generic japanese whetstones from amazon, and knives range from za-18, white #2, and AS.
But then, I can't shave hair off after I resharpened them from factory.
Anybody have any idea or chance a guess at what I may be doing wrong? At which stone grit can you shave hair arm off? I can't even with the 5000 stone.
Do you always have to go to a low grit stone (say the 600) when sharpening? That's the only thing I don't do regularly? Is it possible I may have messed with the edge angle and that's why it's sharp, but can't shave hair?
Thanks for any pointers!
Anyhow, I moved onto J's because I was frustrated with blunt knives in the kitchen, I decided I'd go for it.
Now, it's all been a learning and discovery thing, using the whetstones, getting the knives sharp. But it is so frustrating, because I simply don't achieve an edge that will cut hair. And I'm sure it's not because of subpar knives, as they are lovely. Don't get me wrong, I get them sharp enough to slice open a finger easily (not that it ever happened, that's for another topic). But they just won't shave hair of my arm no matter what. They rather pick up superficial dermis but not the hair.
Yesterday I received a Masakage Yuki Honesuki for my chickens and guess what? I open up the package, and voila, it shaves hair from my arm.
For instance, my Gyuto, I will take it to the 2000 stone, do one side until I can feel a burr (hear it when scraped), then I go for the other side of the knife until I raise a burr there. I use the sharpie marker to see that I'm indeed hitting the edge.
Once the burr was lifted on the second side, I go to the 5000 stone, then hit it on the first side until I raise a burr (barely perceptible as it is a 5000 stone though), then the other side until I feel a burr, then trailing edge side swaps to deburr, and that's it. I have a 8000 stone in the mail but at the moment 5000 is the highest I have. I rarely use the 600 stone as I never let the knives get that dull.
I have seen the youtube videos on how to sharpen single and double bevels, I know I'm hitting the right spots as I can see the sharpie marker, I let my whetstones soak for 5 minutes, I flatten them before sharpening. My stones are generic japanese whetstones from amazon, and knives range from za-18, white #2, and AS.
But then, I can't shave hair off after I resharpened them from factory.
Anybody have any idea or chance a guess at what I may be doing wrong? At which stone grit can you shave hair arm off? I can't even with the 5000 stone.
Do you always have to go to a low grit stone (say the 600) when sharpening? That's the only thing I don't do regularly? Is it possible I may have messed with the edge angle and that's why it's sharp, but can't shave hair?
Thanks for any pointers!