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    Help me find my next three knives

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    KNIFE TYPE

    I think I want a new Petty, Gyuto and a Nakiri. At some point I'd like to get a slicer (sujihike?), but I can get by with my sabatier carving knife for a good while as it's not terrible.

    I'm right handed.

    I'd like to move over to wa-handles. I've not had a great deal of experience with them, having not used one before outside of some shops where I got to heft and feel them so I couldn't do a detailed breakdown of D/O/Octagonal.


    Gyuto - 210 or 240

    Nakiri - 165 (I think, am less sure here)

    Petty 150. My current petty is 110mm and I want something longer than that.

    What length of knife (blade) are you interested in (in inches or millimeters)?

    At the moment I think I want to stick with Stainless. I keep going back and forth on this because of price/quality with carbon blades, but i'm wary on reactivity, upkeep etc. Semi-Stainless or Stainless clad are possible depending on how much extra work maintaining them will be.

    £500 ($750) max for the three knives, ideally keeping it closer to £400 ($600) as I also need to get a new stone, rod and some assorted other knife-related things.



    KNIFE USE

    At home, I cook from scratch almost every knight with a wide variety of cooking.

    Slicing/chopping vegetables, slicing and trimming meat, occasional cutting down poultry. No major butchery though.

    I tend to use a pinch or hammer grip.

    I use push-cut, rock and chop, with probably some daily walking for herbs.

    Aesthetics matter but aren't essential compared to function. I do like the look of hammered finish for something that stands out but there are a lot of finishes which look stunning.

    Ideally something I can use right out of the box with minimal touch up. My freehand skills are not great, which has been a problem with my DPs as their edges needed a lot of work when I got them. Edge retention and ease of sharpening are definitely important, and so is better food release.


    KNIFE MAINTENANCE

    I have one end grain board and intend on getting another, a couple of bamboo boards and 1 synthetic with plans to get a rubber one as well.

    I do sharpen my own knives, I have a mid-grade (800-1k) ceramic honing rod and will be getting a 2200 rod. I also have some naniwa synthetic stones and will get another 1-2 from JNS in the next few months.


    SPECIAL REQUESTS/COMMENTS

    While I've done a lot of lurking and reading, I'm still feeling out of my depth on knowing why one knife maker is better than another, or better for what i'm looking for. I'm prepared to order from Japan but US shipping to the UK tends to make any purchase prohibitively expensive.

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    Hi there, I'm in Leeds and will pm you now with some suggestions!

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    If you are not in a hurry, you could get in touch with Maksim (Denmark) and ask him for these, which are now out of stock:

    http://www.japanesenaturalstones.com...40mm-wa-gyuto/

    http://www.japanesenaturalstones.com...10mm-wa-gyuto/

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcelo Amaral View Post
    If you are not in a hurry, you could get in touch with Maksim (Denmark) and ask him for these, which are now out of stock:

    http://www.japanesenaturalstones.com...40mm-wa-gyuto/

    http://www.japanesenaturalstones.com...10mm-wa-gyuto/

    Good luck!
    You stay away from my 240 kasumi, I've been waiting months for them to restock!

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    These look like a good deal:
    http://www.chuboknives.com/collections/takamura

    For the price you'd be hard put to beat them, and only $7 postage.

    I have a Takamura Hana which I like a lot. Stinky sharp ootb and stays sharp for a long, long time.
    I don't have any problems sharpening the R2 (powdered) steel.
    I have a variety of stainless and carbon knives, my favourites are my Takamura and Tanaka R2 knives.


    These Tanaka knives are also good value:

    http://www.metalmaster-ww.com/product-list/5

    I have a 240 blue 2, a nice knife.

    I've bought from both, metalmaster doesn't seem to respond to emails much, but other than that, no problems.

    The other suggestions are all good knives.

    Good luck

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    didn't I hear that intinomonns are no longer being made or something ?

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    Thanks for all the responses so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcelo Amaral View Post
    If you are not in a hurry, you could get in touch with Maksim (Denmark) and ask him for these, which are now out of stock:

    http://www.japanesenaturalstones.com...40mm-wa-gyuto/

    http://www.japanesenaturalstones.com...10mm-wa-gyuto/

    Good luck!
    As you say they're out of stock right now. I did email Maksim to ask and he said that he hopes they'll be back in stock next month but doesn't know for certain. It does look like a great option for the Gyuto though I don't know how it compares to other knives around that price point such as the Ashi Hamono 'Ginga' stainless steel knives I read someone posting about ordering from Japan at what looked to be a very reasonable price.


    Quote Originally Posted by havox07 View Post
    You stay away from my 240 kasumi, I've been waiting months for them to restock!
    I'm not convinced on it yet, but if I decide on one then i'm sure he'd be getting more than one in stock.

    Quote Originally Posted by kevpenbanc View Post
    These look like a good deal:
    http://www.chuboknives.com/collections/takamura

    For the price you'd be hard put to beat them, and only $7 postage.

    I have a Takamura Hana which I like a lot. Stinky sharp ootb and stays sharp for a long, long time.
    I don't have any problems sharpening the R2 (powdered) steel.
    I have a variety of stainless and carbon knives, my favourites are my Takamura and Tanaka R2 knives.


    These Tanaka knives are also good value:

    http://www.metalmaster-ww.com/product-list/5

    I have a 240 blue 2, a nice knife.

    I've bought from both, metalmaster doesn't seem to respond to emails much, but other than that, no problems.

    The other suggestions are all good knives.

    Good luck
    The Takamura Hana's have western-style blades so not what I'm looking for. I'll take a look through the Tanaka blades and try to find reviews on here of them. Their stainless Gyuto seem remarkably cheap in comparison to anything else I've seen though which I'm unsure on why that is.


    Quote Originally Posted by CoqaVin View Post
    didn't I hear that intinomonns are no longer being made or something ?
    As I said above, I emailed Maksim and he said he hopes to get them back in stock next month. Don't know if that means a last order, whether he's not heard the news you have or it's just an incorrect rumour.

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    Is there anything with a hammered finish in my price-range which people would recommend, or is there a reason I should avoid that aesthetic? While I know function+form aren't automatically going to go together in my price range, I'd like to get a better grip on what blades for around $200-$250 each should be like in terms of quality so I know what I'm looking for or comparing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoqaVin View Post
    Yes for the hammer pattern, though I'm not sure about the faux-Damascus pattern running down to the edge as well, makes it all look a bit too busy.

    JKI seem to have a huge selection and are obviously very involved here, it's just a shame that shipping+customs make it prohibitively expensive from the UK.

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    oh didnt know you were in the UK my fault

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