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    Talking Hi All, and I've got to ask your opinion!

    Hi all, and thanks for the sharpening info I've been reading on this forum for the last couple of days.
    I am currently based in Norway, which is expensive and small, which kind of limits availability in products.

    Though this weekend my sister in law and her aunt will be in New York, staying near Central Park.
    And I am growing tired of the abrasive-paper-on-a-leather-strop-with-green-compound kit I have been using for 3-4 years.

    So I've been doing some reading and narrowed the selections available on Manhattan to a few stores, and a handful of stones.
    I'd really like to hear your experienced thoughts on this selection. I've got around $120-130 to spend, and since shipping now isn't an issue, I can actually afford something other than a nameless brand or King combo stone. Mind you, a single King stone bought in a shop here in Norway would set me back around $75+ and I want something good that lasts. I get annoyed with poor quality..

    (The links are to make it easier for people to know which stones I an referring to, sorry if it violates any rule, but it seemed unclear)

    First off, from the store MTC Kitchen, I've narrowed it down to these.
    Fine Stones: Arashiyama 6000 and the Kitayama 8000
    Medium Stones: Shapton 1000 or 1500, the Nenohi 1500 or a Suehiro 1000/3000 combo.

    Then from Korin, which I know you are all familiar with
    Fine Stones: The Kitayama 8000 (link over) or Mizuyama 6000
    Medium Stones: Mizuyama 1200 or Togiharu 1000
    I am also willing to go for the Togiharu 1000/4000 combo stone or the Mizuyama 1000/6000 combo stone.

    What are your guys thought for one medium and one fine stone from these options? (And yes, the inlaws are in the vicinity of both stores, so mixing is an option )
    Is the jump from 1000 or 1500 straight to 8000 too much? Will any of these stones dish out quickly?

    Hoping for help on this one. Thanks for your time!
    -Svein, the till-now-convex Norwegian-

    If you are wondering what I will sharpen, it will mostly be kitchen knives. A molybdenum/high carbon german Kobe, and a not so good Chef Santoku and some small Ikea stuff... But I will also use them on other knives I make. I am somewhat handy, but of course not a pro sharpener, though I learn technique fast if I have proper tools!
    Last edited by SveinD; 01-11-2017 at 07:42 PM. Reason: Safeguarding so I don't break rules. I'm just a foregner, please don't shoot me!)

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    Welcome Svein,

    1st, rules here are pretty accommodating - we want you to be able to communicate. Links to specific products are not a problem.

    2nd, US based vendors like JKI have free shipping within states once you exceed a dollar threshold. So don't limit yourself to just MTC and Korin. I am more familiar with and would prefer the Gesshin 1/6K combo and in your situation would be looking to have that shipped to the hotel they are staying at. The Kitayama gets some pretty mixed reviews here and I would be leary of suggesting it if you've not tried it first. I'm not familiar with the others but most everything Korin does with the Togiharu line up is pretty good.
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    Hi Svein,

    the Mizuyama 1k was my first medium stone (naka toishi). I love its feedback, but it isn't a very fast stone. On the other hand, the Arashiyama 6k (aka Takenoko 8k) is my favorite synthetic finishing stone because it leaves a good toothy edge. Never used the other stones you have as an option, though. As Daveb said, i wouldn't limit my options to MTC and Korin only as you could have them mailed to NY for free or next to free.

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    I think JNS and K&S have pretty reasonable International shipping. Worth checking out how much stones would be delivered to your door. Not sure how EU import taxes interact though.
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    Unfortunately, the inlaws are only in New York from Friday too Monday. So there really isn't time to ship to the hotel. I did not know they were going at all till earlier this week. That is why I've narrowed it down. There is a shop selling the Suehiro Riku 5k, but they are sold out atm... I have a shop here i Norway that sells the Naniwa Pro/Chosera line, but even the 1k costs almost $150. So Korin or MTC Kitchen it is.s

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    sorry, I haven't com compared prices, just wanted to throw it in there that but jns is located in Denmark so shipping shouldn't be to bad and dictum (German company) should be worth checking out as well,I pay 10 euro in shipping from there

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    Not offering a recommendation I'm afraid but I do wish to caution. I'm new to the stone and based on my short time with it, I wouldn't go for a Kitayama if I were you. Not saying there's anything wrong with it - might prove to be great over time - but I believe it doesn't offer much to someone just starting stone sharpening. Bit of a leap to a high grit and not offering a lot of feedback. Actually wouldn't recommend any stone around this grit including the well-regarded Naniwa Junpaku. Please bear in mind that I'm only an intermediate stone user.

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    Norway is taxing.. ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by mikaelsan View Post
    sorry, I haven't com compared prices, just wanted to throw it in there that but jns is located in Denmark so shipping shouldn't be to bad and dictum (German company) should be worth checking out as well,I pay 10 euro in shipping from there
    I have no way of comparing prices since I do not recognize the brand names, but they seem to be a bit cheaper than Norway.

    But it will cancel out because every order over $60 entering Norway gets slapped with a 25% tax and handling fee of about $10-25.

    Which is why I would really like some feedback on the stones in my original post. Those I can get to Norway without shipping costs, tax and additional fees, probably saving myself $150 on just two stones.

    I learn fast, can adapt to consistent movements and feedback quite well

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    fair enough, i did not know it was that bad, do you have anything for flattening? otherwise i would also consider getting something for that purpose

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    "Not sure how EU import taxes interact though."

    OK, PSA for everyone saying "just order XYZ from the US or Japan or..." to EU users: We pay around 20-30% extra in customs,taxes,fees... when we do.

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