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    Henckels Twin Cermax?

    These knives hardly seem to be mentioned on the forum for their (apparant) performance to price ratio. Are they such bad knives or is there a negative bias towards them for being more mass produced? I was thinking of getting the 240mm chefs knife as i need something that can stand up to long hours on poly boards (no choice on the board, pro kitchen ) Im also a sucker for a "different" looking western handle.

    Has anybody had any personal experience with these to comment on the edge holding ability etc? Ive heard the 240 chefs is the only well balanced of the entire line so thats a good start. It is a toss up between this and the knife of the hour, the Konosuke HD. Well, i was looking at the kono zdp189 but must resist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott6452 View Post
    These knives hardly seem to be mentioned on the forum for their (apparant) performance to price ratio. Are they such bad knives or is there a negative bias towards them for being more mass produced? I was thinking of getting the 240mm chefs knife as i need something that can stand up to long hours on poly boards (no choice on the board, pro kitchen ) Im also a sucker for a "different" looking western handle.

    Has anybody had any personal experience with these to comment on the edge holding ability etc? Ive heard the 240 chefs is the only well balanced of the entire line so thats a good start. It is a toss up between this and the knife of the hour, the Konosuke HD. Well, i was looking at the kono zdp189 but must resist!
    Knife of the hour is a good thing!

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    It must be, it's got me convinced to buy one!

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    Quite a few members here have the Twin Cermax so they will clearly know more than me, but I have been close to buying one a few times but didn't for a few reasons. They seem to be quite fragile and the handles are supposedly not so good. They are tempting I must admit, and can be bought in Europe at quite a reasonable price without having to pay stupid import fess and all that, so I guess it's up to you. If you look at the last couple of pages of this thread you'll see where I posted a similar question as yours and the responses. Hope it helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenStefano View Post
    Quite a few members here have the Twin Cermax so they will clearly know more than me, but I have been close to buying one a few times but didn't for a few reasons. They seem to be quite fragile and the handles are supposedly not so good. They are tempting I must admit, and can be bought in Europe at quite a reasonable price without having to pay stupid import fess and all that, so I guess it's up to you. If you look at the last couple of pages of this thread you'll see where I posted a similar question as yours and the responses. Hope it helps
    Thanks for the information. From users themselves, the handles seem to get mostly positive reviews. Il see if anybody that has pulled the trigger on one can comment. Ironically it is still cheaper for me to buy one from CKTG and get it shipped over as buying in uk it works out to around $390! Crazy UK Maybe i just buy the henckels and the konosuke haha.

    On a totally different topic im that sick of using poly boards with no other option in uk that im considering spending like $100 on a sani-tuff to get some better edge retention as i cant disgrace the poly boards enough. Although to make myself feel better, i did attack one of the old ones with an axe during our annual board change. Ah that was nice!

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    You can buy a Twin Cermax here at Edenwebshops for about £200 which is quite reasonable and you won't have to pay import duties and all that. Yeah poly boards totally suck I know how you feel

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenStefano View Post
    You can buy a Twin Cermax here at Edenwebshops for about £200 which is quite reasonable and you won't have to pay import duties and all that. Yeah poly boards totally suck I know how you feel
    i haven't seen a Cermax chefs knife in person, but the profile looks pretty good in that picture. now i kinda want one.

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    I have a Cermax Petty and a Miyabi 7000mc 9" Chef's which is made of the same steel than the Cermax. I can attest to the edge holding ability of the steel. If this is your primary concern, you can't do any better than ZDP189 (or Cowry X as in a Hattori KD...). Also I don't find ZDP189 in Henckels knives fragile. It's less chippy than my Shun Elite.

    I also once had a Cermax in 9" which I sold to a friend. The 9" is well balanced and I had no issues with the handle. But the shorter Cermax are handle heavy.

    A Konosuke HD may be 'hotter' than a Cermax, but if you are looking for a solid performer with excellent edge retention and if you can get a good deal on them, you can't go wrong with the Cermax.

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    looks like a good deal for somebody in the US here (i'm not associated with the seller in anyway, this thread just prompted me to look on eBay).

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    The edge retention is very nice on the Cermax. I haven't had any problems with mine at all. I will say there is more belly on them than I prefer and the blade is odd, heavy and clumsy-feeling. For that reason, I had mine wa-converted and reground by Rottman last year. Now, it's REALLY nice.

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