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    Quote Originally Posted by shipbuilder View Post
    Great title for the thread, and now I understand why! As I've been getting into natural stones over the last year, I have always wondered about the focus on lacquering the stone versus the tendency for stone (and most natural things) to have grain, planes of weakness, etc. Between the nature of stone and the pressure applied in sharpening, lacquer always strikes me as something that soothes the mind more than actually offering physical resistance to the stone "doing its thing". I know the Japanese have a long history with these things, but this is a case where all the lacquer in the world could not prevent the stone from shearing. If you build a dam for the better half, create shims to level the stone inside, then pour thick-set epoxy into it, then insert the stone on the shims, it should cure into a "mounted" stone with utility remaining.
    That sounds like a pretty good solution. I think the sealing is to prevent water ingress more than anything else though I saw a vintage stone recently fortified with both lacquer and tightly wrapped kite string set into the lacquer and then lacquered again. Not only a clever solution but it also looked amazing. Too late for that though now


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    Quote Originally Posted by zetieum View Post
    Well. Keep the big upper half, and give me the bottom part
    I'm afraid that parts of the bottom layer are so thin that only fingerstones would arrive.


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    Oh man! I feel your pain. Always a drastic shot to the Nuticles when this happens. When my Aizu split I glued it together with cyanoacrylate.
    I'll never wear it down to the glue joint.

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    Funny enough Doug, the only other stone that broken on me is an Aizu. Despite the ingenuity of shipbuilders suggestion. I am kinda tempted to just glue it back together. I won't reach the joint for a many many years

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    I would glue the two together. It is not your only stone so you'll be at the glue in about 70 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badgertooth View Post
    What solution did you come up with in the end?
    For now nothing. I have asthma so can't use any chemicals in the house. I have to wait until it's warmer (almost there!) so I can set up in the garage (better air circulation and nothing in my living quarters).

    One thing I HATE about this forum is you can't bookmark threads. Someone posted a bit back about mounting a high quality stone on a base and had a smashing picture tutorial of how they filled in an uneven back. I thought it was Matus but I've checked their started threads and can't find it.

    So I have a few choices:

    1. Lap both ends and like you, lose about 5-7mm on each stone then mount to a base.
    2. Use the fill in technique once I find it (grrrr!) then mount a higher/easier to use stone to each base.
    3. Split the baby and do one of each of the above to get some practice in.

    All of the above will end with coating the heck out of the stone with several layers of cashew lacquer.

    I've lapped a few pretty rough stones, but they've been bigger and I'm afraid the thinner of the two halves will crumble if I try that, hence wanting to try the fill in technique on at least the thinner side.

    Can't wait for warmer weather for several reasons.

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    Sorry to read that. For others stones : only put Jnats on a plain surface not a stone holder urging more on the supported area (at ends and in the middle).

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    Vicky, Matus has that tutorial on his blog http://matuskalisky.blogspot.ca/2017...uita-from.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCaptain View Post

    One thing I HATE about this forum is you can't bookmark threads. Someone posted a bit back about mounting a high quality stone on a base and had a smashing picture tutorial of how they filled in an uneven back. I thought it was Matus but I've checked their started threads and can't find it.
    Two suggestions:

    1. "Subscribe" to the thread (use the Thread Tools drop down);

    2. Use your browser's bookmark function.
    The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.

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    Valguard - that's it thanks!

    Pensacola Tiger - good ideas - even better - never noticed the thread tools button before - I can email pages!!!


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