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    Porsche... I love sitting on mine when the weather is nice smoking a cigar, drink in hand and chatting with friends.

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    Always liked Porsche. I have spent a few years in Germany and got spoiled with good beer and good cars around (as an observer. I don't drive).

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    Yes, Porsches are nice, except when they go to the shop. If you have money to play, then they are great fun and practical for an "exotic".

    If you don't have the money to spend and want some better reliability, get a Nissan 370Z Track edition. Very fun and tossable, with pretty darn good power.

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    They can be costly to maintain unless you can do minor installations and repairs yourself. Not many use it as a daily car though and service it once a year. I used to change the engine oil myself and keep a stock of engine oil filters as it is a daily car.It has been reported that the Engine can lasts.. 400,000km ( not the 70s engines) without an engine overhaul. I used to buy parts from US. I noticed that on the air-cooled engines ( till manufacture year 2000), a common problem was oil leak from the engine.. always. Just to "drop" the engine to fix it cost too much money. Perhaps also on the air-cooled engine it reached the potential power output as the Japanese turbos were matching closely; if not surpassing it. I used to have the Evos out running me as my old 911SC Targa(1982 3.0cc) had a power output 200 bhp and the 944T ( 1986, 2.4cc)(and the Evos were doing about 260bhp. Hell, I even had a modified Honda Accord ( modified one, I wld like to assume) going past me beyond 200km speed as I don't drive past beyond 200; perhaps the wind speed and being a lower car does make seem faster ( fear or too much adrenalin flowing). Technology in engines changes too much and I doubt that I would go for the mid 80s or 90s Porshe, unless I can drop a newer engine.

    I have also sourced for reconditioned engines and parts ( upgraded brake system, gearbox and accessories and suspension) from the US.Been doing that since the 70s, visiting local wreck shops and salvaging re-usable and reconditioned parts for my 2002 then.

    AS to convertibles.. it is fun when you are driving alone... wind in your hair and you against the elements. Hell you can also drive in the rain ( a light/moderate one though) as it creates a wind cushion till you stop! But when you have a passenger, you cant have a decent conversation as the wind noise does get to you above 120km. So basically, convertibles are fun when you are alone and cruising and with the family.

    IF I can afford it might go for an old one ( post yr 2000 manufacture a normal coupe, S series and non turbo) when I turn 60 in a few years time as the "itch" is still there and enjoying looking at junk yards ( on the net) for parts to upgrade and giving it a good week-end run over 400km stretch, visit friends and have a nice lunch... The days of polishing the car and ready to go out for a "Saturday Night Fever" are long gone..

    Spouses/girlfriends do frown on their partner's ownership of Porche(s); unless you are just getting to know them. So in comparison to a passion/ hobby of collecting knives vs fast cars, I think that they would readily support the former. My spouse is secretly grateful that I am into kitchen knives and sharpening... at least it keeps me occupied and at home!

    Have fun and good driving...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mano View Post
    Porsche... I love sitting on mine when the weather is nice smoking a cigar, drink in hand and chatting with friends.
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    -The Cigar

    My porsche has so much clutter, there's barely room to sit. I can't complain, I am lucky to have one at all!

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    Got the pappy and the son but not the grand daddy.

    Currently have 2 of the 3 mid-engine Speedster variations...a '73 914 2.o and a 98 Boxster. Both have been very reliable and relative econo-style to maintain....even at the local dealership. Twice a year take the Boxster in for oil and filters etc. and get out of there, detailed, washed and vacuumed for under 2 bills.

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    Dang, not sure how I missed this thread last month I've had an '87 targa for ~14 years now. I got into the DE thing a couple years after buying the car, so my Porsche experience is mainly centered around going to the track these days. We have a really active BBS here in the DC area, and it's full of people who track their cars and DIY the repair/ upgrade work.

    What price range are you looking in? 964s are going in mid-teens now, although many have not yet had motor rebuilds. 996s are evn less expensive, while the model in between (993) are holding in the low to mid 30s. The 997s are awesome machines. The Caymens are nice; the 'underengineered' comment above likely relates to the car needing some mods if driven regularly on the track.

    Want to go even older? Carrera and SC prices are pretty depressed right now (10-15k for one with a rebuild and refreshed suspension). Targas tend to be cheaper, as they are not desirable for a car that will be tracked. But I really enjoy driving mine on the steet every now and then, especially when I can pop off the top during nicer weather.

    It is commonly held that all mid-year, SC and Carreras are $20k cars. So if you buy one for $10k, expect to put in another $10k getting it fully up to snuff

    As others have stated, there are options for 944s, 951s and 928s.

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    A 914 was my first car back in 1989.... It burst into flames in 1990....I had no insurance, as I paid cash for the car I had earned as a grill cook at the local Sizzler.

    It was surprisingly roomy for a big guy. I remember absolutely hating the transmission, and it sure wasn't quick; if I remember it had a 1.7L VW engine...

    I hated the rims, and quickly replaced them with some cheap AR five stars. I junked the stock rims, and later found they were an upgraded rim worth some coin....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9mmbhp View Post
    If you want one buy one! You only live once.

    The P-car bug hit me hard back in the late 90s and I owned both a '88 3.2L Carrera and a '89 928 S4 for a couple of years. The total investment for both cars was about US$40k. Other than washing/waxing, tires and regular oil and brake fluid changes I had no maintenance issues with them. For 10-15 year old cars (at the time) they were comfortable, reliable, solid (built like tanks) and extremely fun to drive.

    The 928 was the ultimate 2 person touring car, built to cruise at 120mph+ - the 5L V8 32v motor was a torque-y thing (315hp/330ft-lbs) and acceleration was never an issue. At any speed in any gear, push the pedal and it GOES. At the time I don't think there were any contemporary production cars that could match the 928's acceleration from 70-120.

    The 911 was much more of a "sports" car -- really not all that fast but small, quick and tossable, just plain fun to drive because of how it involved all the senses with the feedback it provided through the suspension, steering and pedals. And nothing sounds like that flat-6 motor chuffing loudly behind you.

    Both cars were what I would describe as requiring high-effort: steering was on the heavy side and pedal effort as well (the 911 had a racing clutch which didn't help). The cars encouraged you to put some work into driving and getting the most out of them. I've never gotten the same feeling from say an Audi or BMW though I don't have that much experience with either.

    One of the best quotes I ever read about driving a 911 goes something along the lines of needing to treat it like a rambunctious labrador puppy who loves to play rough and tumble and get a little dirty. Every once in a while you just need to grab him by the scruff of the neck, give him a good shake and show him who's boss.

    One of these days I'd like to own another Porsche. A 993 is what I lust for since it is the last of the air-cooled flat-6s but a Cayman would be fine too.
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    The 993s stopped production in 1998...

    YOu got to scope out the engine specs as some of the production year has only 300bhp. WHen compared to the power output of the EVo adn Subarus wch are pumping out 260 to 280 Bhp.. it doenst sound like fun... to be smoked.

    I would consider the Turbos which has a power output of 400 bhp. THe later normal aspitared 993s would pump out 350bhp.. not too bad. That even, the S4 series would be my preferred choice.. Turbo look.. Worth keeping for a few more years....

    http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/?man=5318 to list all the specs of porsches

    Have FUn

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    +1...seems like everybody wants to take a run at you.....even the Gremlin 401 croud.

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