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    What I'm trying for you to look at can be a pain to find, and I find it easier to see if I'm looking at the choil with the blade horizontal. The only pic I've got online of my Misono choil doesn't show it well.

    If you look at your picture, the right side of the blade is basically vertical, and the left side is angled to meet that (like a right angle triangle). Now, imagine taking the blade and rotating it so the left side of picture is vertical and the right side angles to meet that (the same right angle triangle but mirrored). That is the different between the righty and the lefty grind. The flat side goes to your grip hand. Now, having done that, look at the knife from behind the tang. As you do that same little twist, you should see that in one case the tang is vertical and in the other the tang is at an angle. If the tang is vertical, that helps tell you which way the angle should be on the choil, which tells you which handedness the blade is. It's not easy to spot, but I can find it my Misono and my Tojiro's.

    my knife is not sharp enough.

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    Have the blade -- the blade only -- on a flat surface. Lift the spine a little bit by turning the handle. Try it with the other side as well. The side where you feel some play is the dominant, convex side.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Benuser View Post
    Have the blade -- the blade only -- on a flat surface. Lift the spine a little bit by turning the handle. Try it with the other side as well. The side where you feel some play is the dominant, convex side.
    Doing this test i can definitely feel the right side more convex. Do you think that misono produces all lefty knives this way or could it be a unlucky faulty item?

    @esoo: thank you, now i understand what you're telling me to look at and i tried, but with bare eyes i really cannot tell...

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    You can't really tell the whole story from a choil shot. With that said it looks to me like the edge itself is ground correctly for a weir I mean lefty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benuser View Post
    Have the blade -- the blade only -- on a flat surface. Lift the spine a little bit by turning the handle. Try it with the other side as well. The side where you feel some play is the dominant, convex side.

    You can also check this to confirm with water. Basically pool water on the blade (try to hold blade sea-level-style flat), and watch it respond. The water will move (run) off the convexity, pool a bit more evenly on the flatter side. If the face is actually true-convex, dead-flat, and/or assymetric (compare each side) you should be able to tell. (For a test, check if the water will pool as you rotate a bit, as your motion is counter-acting the curve in the blade, of if its dead flat, once you break the surface tension, it will all run off...)

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    The large part of the primary bevel asymmetry is on the right as it should be for a lefty, but the convexity does appear primarily on the on the left, which is wrong for a lefty. This would explain the unfavorable steering. Send it back or adjust to it.

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    I would indeed expect some counter-clockwise steering with a lefty blade, that can easily be corrected when sharpening.

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    Question about new misono dragon

    Quote Originally Posted by rick alen View Post
    The large part of the primary bevel asymmetry is on the right as it should be for a lefty, but the convexity does appear primarily on the on the left, which is wrong for a lefty. This would explain the unfavorable steering. Send it back or adjust to it.
    +1
    This is what I was saying and still believe it was a right handed knife but the the edge rebeveled for a lefty.

    Can you take a pic of the logo? With all the mixing up going on above on which side is front, I think a picture will be faster.

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    Who was the retailer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benuser View Post
    I would indeed expect some counter-clockwise steering with a lefty blade, that can easily be corrected when sharpening.
    Why? I may be wrong but couldn't it be that after that edge and the bevel (which are correctly set for a left hander) cuts through the food the higher part of the blade gets in contact with the food and the convexity makes the knife turn left?




    I also tried to see the gap between the blade and a flat surface:

    this is with the left face lying down


    and this with the right face lying down


    Even if the bevel is correctly left biased there's still more gap in the right face, which should be flatter.


    Quote Originally Posted by Benuser View Post
    Who was the retailer?
    JCK, I'm already in touch with mr Iwahara to see if we can find a solution

    Quote Originally Posted by osakajoe View Post
    +1
    This is what I was saying and still believe it was a right handed knife but the the edge rebeveled for a lefty.

    Can you take a pic of the logo? With all the mixing up going on above on which side is front, I think a picture will be faster.
    Sure, here it is



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