Marko Tsourkan
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Its no secret that everything that Microsoft "stole" from Apple was invented by Xerox years earlier and never utilized. WYSIWYG, GUI, the freaking internet...
no. Apple paid Xerox for the right to visit and utilize, and nothing Apple actually designed and released was vaguely technically similar, despite some superficial similarities. they weren't built the same, they didn't look the same, and they didn't work the same. Xerox did not invent any of those things, btw (especially not the internet, lol), Parc simply put together disparate ideas into a quasi-practical system. the Parc systems didn't really work, and never would have, because the implementation was a dead end. they did, however, show how such systems could work. Microsoft, on the other hand, did directly copy. Apple lost the case not because it was shown that Microsoft didn't directly copy, but instead because the court ruled that they had the right to copy, due to an earlier agreement Apple and Microsoft had. the facts are a far cry from what you are claiming.
I think those "superficial similarities" are called "ideas". My point was, you can't OWN ideas, and you don't really INVENT things. The only true invention is technique...and it's absurdly arrogant for him to believe that HE is the sole proprietor of GUI, or mobile phone platforms, etc etc. Life came before him, life goes on after him. He saw himself as being somehow deserving credit for the fact that he was standing in the midst of a maelstrom of technological advancement, and since he believed this so strongly, everyone else did too.
As far as the "facts"...well, it's all he-said-she-said, isn't it? Here's what Bob Taylor, head of ARPANET said about who invented the internet:
"I believe the first internet was created at Xerox PARC, circa '75, when we connected, via PUP, the Ethernet with the ARPAnet. PUP (PARC Universal Protocol) was instrumental later in defining TCP.
For the internet to grow, it also needed a networked personal computer, a graphical user interface with WYSIWYG properties, modern word processing, and desktop publishing. These, along with the Ethernet, all came out of my lab at Xerox PARC in the '70s, and were commercialized over the next 20 years by Adobe, Apple, Cisco, Microsoft, Novell, Sun and other companies that were necessary to the development of the Internet."
Also:
John Shoch, who worked with Robert Metcalfe on the Ethernet developments at Xerox Parc, and who is at great pains to stay out of debates about who started the Internet, has concluded that PUP (the Parc Universal Protocol) was the first complete, operational set of Internet protocols. Schoch was also involved in the development of TCP/IP at a later date. To quote Shoch,
"Starting around 1974, Xerox PARC designed and deployed an internet architecture called PUP; it was up and running on multiple machines and networks when TCP was just a design for byte stream protocols. Input from Xerox' operational experience helped convince the TCP working group to add the IP packet layer!"
If you want to control a market on something, do something BETTER than anyone else. Fighting over who invented what is a game for petty aristocrats and toddlers.
Everyone knows....I invented the internet....geesh...
Everyone knows....I invented the internet....geesh...
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