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    Senior Member labor of love's Avatar
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    Masibu, Iím in the same boat for sure. Much prefer synths. I know this is off topic but I just wanted to know how the cerax 700 compares to chosera 400? Slightly more refined edge, maybe not as good feedback, equal cutting speed?


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    Speaking of stainless and naturals, my stainless blades almost never touch a stone that isn't an Aizu. Not a 1k replacement by any means but then I don't, as a home cook, really have a need to drop down to a 1k very often.

    That said, I normally make the jump into naturals at or right after the 2k mark as I find most of my naka-to to be on par with or finer than that in terms of edge refinement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labor of love View Post
    Masibu, Iím in the same boat for sure. Much prefer synths. I know this is off topic but I just wanted to know how the cerax 700 compares to chosera 400? Slightly more refined edge, maybe not as good feedback, equal cutting speed?
    Unfortunately I haven't had the luxury of using a chosera 400 but I would imagine the edge would be a bit more refined. I had actually bought it hoping to find something similar to the super stone 400 I had once upon a time. I found it to be a bit harder than the ss400 (no issues with gouging the stone) and a bit thirstier hence why I was just leaving it soaked indefinitely. Feedback is excellent for me and a brief lap with an atoma plate preps up mud reasonably quickly but non excessively so. Its a good happy medium in this respect

    Once soaked it doesnt tend to need a lot more water, especially compared with a beston 500. The stone is at least twice as thick as the shapton pro 1k and maybe 1.5x the beston? I think ive written down some measurements on arrival somewhere though so I can confirm that. When I've got the time I'll put a review up and try to include comparisons to my king 1000 (its faster, harder and more resistant to gouging), shapton 1k and beston 500. It doesn't have issues with loading once its soaked but if you try to use it as a splash and go you will probably be disappointed as it will load rather easily without at least a brief dip in the pool.

    As I occasionally sharpen knives for other people (mostly victorinox or something german-esque) it makes for a pretty solid work stone as I can finish their knives on this stone and jump from this to the sigma 2 or 3 for myself. I don't usually need to go lower than the 700 for my own knives once I've broken into a knife and put my own edges on however I like to have the option of something coarser for dead knives (or very poorly sharpened/over steeled/stressed knives). You can use the cerax 700 to set bevels but it takes a bit longer if you're dealing with dead knives.

    I keep a norton combo stone handy in those instances so I can grind harder if required (not so useful for wide bevels though on japanese knives). As alternatives i do have a shapton 220 and a king 300 as well since giving my suehiro to a friend (along with others) for his birthday and congrats to for his new job (any excuse to buy new stones). The king 300 fills this role well however its not a soaking stone so im probably gonna look at the cerax 320 to compare to the king and my old suehiro chemical as I tend to just leave my stones soaking at work.

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    The King hyper 1k cuts faster than the Naniwa or shapton stones in that range and doesnt dish easily . Best used with a 400grit. (mine is a generic) when the the results are too slow in forth coming...

    it really leaves a very decent cutting edge and better after a jump to any finishing stone..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitangy View Post
    The King hyper 1k cuts faster than the Naniwa or shapton stones in that range and doesnt dish easily . Best used with a 400grit. (mine is a generic) when the the results are too slow in forth coming...

    it really leaves a very decent cutting edge and better after a jump to any finishing stone..
    Yes. But does the hyper NOT do too well?

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    masibu, how fast is suehiro chemical 320? and how is the feedback? dishing? ive been wanting to try this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitangy View Post
    The King hyper 1k cuts faster than the Naniwa or shapton stones in that range and doesnt dish easily . Best used with a 400grit. (mine is a generic) when the the results are too slow in forth coming...

    it really leaves a very decent cutting edge and better after a jump to any finishing stone..
    Iím not sure I agree with that.... Iíve found it to be fast cutting and nice feeling but pretty fast dishing

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBroida View Post
    Iím not sure I agree with that.... Iíve found it to be fast cutting and nice feeling but pretty fast dishing
    I'll piggyback here, don't notice for strictly edge sharpening (don't do long 1K sharpening sessions) but it's rather obvious when doing any wide bevel. Feeling, speed, and even finish/edge are great tho.

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    Finally some constructive criticism of the king hype stone.

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    Like I said another plus is good for contrast on soft iron.


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