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    We should clarify on who is getting burned at HOME ... And who is in a PRO environment getting burned. BIG BIG difference. At home water ice and what not may work where you are able to keep it there for a bit. In a Pro environment not the case. If I put water I actually use warm water as it adjusts my temp to the temp of my environment and around me and its easier to deal with the pain. I adhere to Theory's suggestion and AVOID all ice and water if I can help it. My go to is mustard. You can slather it on and it draws the heat to the surface and lessens pain. It will stay on your skin as well. When it drys and you feel the pain coming back, wipe and reapply. I don't know all the science behind it, but I have had LOTS of burns like Theory and very very little scars to show from it using this method. Milk is also a great neutralizer, but only for home use where you can keep it immersed for a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olpappy View Post
    ThEoRy, it sounds like you have a lot more experience with getting burned than anyone I know. Can you explain in more detail what was your experience when you used ice, what kind of burn was it and what happened?

    When I got burned, yes it would feel numb with ice on it and the pain would return when the ice was removed, but I attributed the pain to the burn injury, not the ice. The only reason I kept ice on it for 6 hrs was because that's how long it took to not have severe pain as soon as the ice was removed. Yes, you do have to use caution not to get the area too cold, you should remove the ice any time you feel the area becoming uncomfortably /excessively cold. But the pain will make you want to put the ice back soon enough, ha ha.
    Hahaha Probably just about average for any serious chef over a 15 year period in the business. Not to mention all the cuts, stabbings, slips, falls and avulsions. lol Things happen sometimes I guess. To be quite honest I'm actually very careful and major accidents are far and few between. Minor stuff happens all the time to just about everyone and you kind of just ignore/deal with it.

    The very burn which made me give up using ice was just over 3 years ago. While on saute, in the middle of the weeds, I had a little too much oil in an old pan which warped over time and became almost bowl shaped. The pan was ridiculously smoking hot and I was as usual in a crazy mad rush on saute. I laid a dredged piece of chicken away from myself a little too fast and the combination of the excessive amount of ripping hot oil and the shape of the pan caused the oil to shoot up the side wall like a friggin skate board half pipe and splash down all across my right hand. The oil covered my hand all across my knuckles and down into the webbing in between my thumb and slightly into the other side on my palm, immediately blistering the whole thing.

    We were almost home free but we had to clear the board. The sous chef at the time asked if I wanted him to jump in and finish it out but this ain't friggin double dutch. He would've just gotten buried. I knew where we were with the entrees and sides and what needed to be fired up and sent out. I was still in the zone. So I just cranked out that last excruciating 40 minutes all the while reaching into ovens and over open flames further aggravating it the whole time. It's like getting burned all over again each and every time.

    With the board mostly clear and now manageable for someone to jump in I stepped off to find some relief. I went for the ice water bucket to soak my hand in until I could get to the emergency room. Sure it stopped the pain which was about a 5-6 on the 1-10 scale while it was numb, but you can only take that for so long so I had to take it out every so often. When I did though as feeling came back into my hand the pain shot up way beyond its normal level to about an 11 or so. Ridiculously painful even for me with an extremely high tolerance. After about 3 times I couldn't take it anymore so I just switched to a regular cold tap water bath. The pain came down to about a 3 and just comfortably stayed there with no spikes.

    After service I finally got to the e-ward where they asked me stupid questions like, "Why didn't you just come here 40 minutes ago?" Anyway I explained the whole thing including the ice bath and resulting pain and that's when they told me to never use ice because of that reason and others, and that cold water was the most effective at cooling/relieving pain from a burn. This is the part where they left for a few seconds and I nabbed the silvadine.

    So that's what happened. And I've sworn off the ice ever since. Thankfully I haven't had to use that advice since then but a few I know have and have also benefited from the healing powers of plain old cool tap water.

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    Well, that certainly sheds more light on things. A bucket of ice water will make your hand a lot colder than an ice pack, and the resulting cold will rapidly become uncomfortable, even painful. Anyone who has put their hand in in ice water will recall that it becomes uncomfortably cold very quickly. In this case a matter of too much of a good thing.

    If your skin immediately blistered, then it was already a 2nd degree burn and there's not much to do for it except take pain meds and cover it with silvadene until the skin peels off. Also, working for another 40 mins means that you lost any chance to reduce the damage by immediately cooling the area.

    Under ideal conditions, the best you could hope for would have been to immediately stop and let your co-worker take over, cool the area with an ice pack or cool water as you mentioned earlier. That would be the best chance to keep the blistered area to a minimum by stopping the heat damage and inflammation.

    It does make a difference if it is 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th degree burn, obviously. If your skin has transformed into a huge fluid filled bubble, or if there's just raw meat there, it wouldn't make sense to put ice on it... cool water would be the only thing suitable. But if your skin is still intact, I like ice, cool water sure didn't make me feel any better when I've tried it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThEoRy View Post
    All that really does is add a cooling sensation.

    Silvadine sulfate however is a cream often used on severe burns ( and subsequently skin graft donor sites ) which helps deter infection and speeds the development of new tissue growth and helps reduce scarring.

    We have a huge jug of this stuff at work. Don't ask me how I got a giant tub of doctor prescribed only cream without a prescription either.





    OK I stole it. While getting treated 3 years ago for a severe burn during a mad house shift on saute (that I stuck it out for 3 hours till the end of the night before going to the emergency room) when they left the room for a second I nabbed the jug cause I knew we would need that ****. I even have a little jar at home as well. Has come in very handy many times since then.
    I love this stuff...

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