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    Steel Looking for Knifemaker

    Ok, first of all, let me say that I don't have any steel right now, but I have been looking at buying a steel billet and wondering which custom (kitchen) knifemakers will let you send them some steel to make a knife according to specs.

    I got the idea after buying that Pendray wootz knife and inquired about him letting go of a billet for someone like Devin to make into a knife. Apparently Al Pendray won't let his steel go. I guess that makes sense as the last thing he needs is a knifemaker screwing up his steel and producing a poor product. In the past he did let others craft his steel, but many of them ruined the billets with improper heat treatment, so he stopped.

    With that said, I saw that Ric Furrer sells Damascus billets and it got me to thinking again.

    http://www.doorcountyforgeworks.com/..._for_sale.html

    If I ever purchased a billet, who could make me a knife?

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    Hey drink wassup?. If i were you and wanted a damascus knife, I would contact someone I trusted to make me a knife and leave it at that. There are howevr people that sorta fit your description. I know David Broadwell has used steel from Delbert Ealy. You have to also remember one thing, just because u get a billet and send itto someone doesn't mean you are gonna get a great knife out of it. What if the steel is garbage? I am not saying any of the people you listed make bad steel but it could happen.

    So I guess what I am saying is it would be best for you to find a maker that you trust that makes damascus knives him/herself.

    Just out ofcuriousity- Why did you wanna buy a billet and send it to someone???? ryan

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    I dunno but he's got about a minimum $2000 dollar order on those it looks like.
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    Ryan,
    I make damascus for David because his location (texas-read gates of hell hot in the summer) and his temperment (mild mannered and laidback) are not suited to making damascus. Its fun making damascus here, because its still below freezing and I can forge damascus in t-shirt and jeans. It does get warm here in august, and I try to get it done before then. When its cold you can bundle up, but when it gets warm, there is only so much you can take off(forging naked is not recommended)

    Ric Furrer is a good guy(I know him) and a very interesting guy as well. The material he makes is top quality.

    Ryan,
    Buying a billet and sending to another maker is common practice in the knife world. I occasionally get customers who want me to do this. Had one just a couple of weeks ago.

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    Don't get me wrong. I LOVE to buy knives direct from people that make great knives. I have two DTs and I am signed up for one of Dave's knives. I guess it arose from my intrigue with wootz damascus and no one makes kitchen knives out of that steel. It is used more in hunter knives, but I was thinking a nice boing knife or a slicer in wootz would be a nice addition. That is what started it.

    And then with Damascus steel, I see so many patterns that I like. Devin has a ton of beautiful stuff, but he is also really busy.

    I do fully agree with you that the steel might not be good, and I would definitely be picky before doling out cash for custom steel and knifemaking ($$$), but I just raised it as a because it crossed my mind recently. We are already to the point where Stefan sends wood to Dave for his handles, and Dave is using steel from somewhere else for his knives. And didn't Devin used to make steel for Kramer? Maybe I am wrong, but it doesn't seem to me that high-quality boutique steel supply is that crazy (or far off). Do all of these hunter knifemakers forge their own steel? I'm not sure.

    On the other hand, I might just be trying to put a lot of work (and time) into buying knives to slow down the cash hemorrhage that is happening right now on finished blades

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThEoRy View Post
    I dunno but he's got about a minimum $2000 dollar order on those it looks like.
    I know. Four billets is too much in so many ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr drinky View Post

    On the other hand, I might just be trying to put a lot of work (and time) into buying knives to slow down the cash hemorrhage that is happening right now on finished blades

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    Good luck with that. Hasn't worked for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr drinky View Post
    Don't get me wrong. I LOVE to buy knives direct from people that make great knives. I have two DTs and I am signed up for one of Dave's knives. I guess it arose from my intrigue with wootz damascus and no one makes kitchen knives out of that steel. It is used more in hunter knives, but I was thinking a nice boing knife or a slicer in wootz would be a nice addition. That is what started it.

    And then with Damascus steel, I see so many patterns that I like. Devin has a ton of beautiful stuff, but he is also really busy.

    I do fully agree with you that the steel might not be good, and I would definitely be picky before doling out cash for custom steel and knifemaking ($$$), but I just raised it as a because it crossed my mind recently. We are already to the point where Stefan sends wood to Dave for his handles, and Dave is using steel from somewhere else for his knives. And didn't Devin used to make steel for Kramer? Maybe I am wrong, but it doesn't seem to me that high-quality boutique steel supply is that crazy (or far off). Do all of these hunter knifemakers forge their own steel? I'm not sure.

    On the other hand, I might just be trying to put a lot of work (and time) into buying knives to slow down the cash hemorrhage that is happening right now on finished blades

    k.

    Most knifemakers don't make thier own damascus, even some of the ones who forge don't make their own. There is a reason for this, making knives is hard enough, even the idea of forging damascus is enough to disuade most of them. It takes a special kind of nutcase to do it all (I should know I'm one of them)
    I don't think there is anything wrong with this, its a big enough investment for the equipment just for knifemaking, a full forging shop can more than double that amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert Ealy View Post
    Most knifemakers don't make thier own damascus, even some of the ones who forge don't make their own. There is a reason for this, making knives is hard enough, even the idea of forging damascus is enough to disuade most of them. It takes a special kind of nutcase to do it all (I should know I'm one of them)
    I don't think there is anything wrong with this, its a big enough investment for the equipment just for knifemaking, a full forging shop can more than double that amount.
    Too right, I just started into making damascus about a year ago and it's wasted a lot of my time for just a couple of useful knives.
    but I consider it to be a skill set very much worth developing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert Ealy View Post
    Most knifemakers don't make thier own damascus, even some of the ones who forge don't make their own. There is a reason for this, making knives is hard enough, even the idea of forging damascus is enough to disuade most of them. It takes a special kind of nutcase to do it all (I should know I'm one of them)
    I don't think there is anything wrong with this, its a big enough investment for the equipment just for knifemaking, a full forging shop can more than double that amount.
    What he sad
    Most of you have seen pic's of Hoss's shop & the monster equipment he has. Most knife makers don't have #500+ power hammers and rolling mills. It's to time consuming for makers to make Damascus without the big stuff, and just like anything else to get good you have to practice a lot. Can't practice to much if it takes you a week to hammer out a bar. Remember that vid of Hoss making that bar? He did that in like 15 minute, 3 knocks with that big hammer then a quick roll then a press in that thing as big as a car.

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