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Thread: Open Source Idea -- Custom Butter/Table Knives

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    I just talked with Hoss about this a bit, and he said that he would love to work on the project, but he doesn't have a rough unit price yet as it depends upon how many knives we are talking about, integral bolster or not, type of wood, dimensions etc.

    He openly admitted that he would probably not be the cheapest one to do it, but he also said he would work with us to keep the cost reasonable enough especially if more people want to buy some.

    Here are some issues up for discussion:

    * Dimensions: Handle, Blade (I posted some above but maybe olpappy can measure his 'freebie' knife to throw that in the mix).
    * Wood: Devin mentioned blackwood and cocobolo. Maybe we could decide on a few different options.
    * Bolster: No bolster, integral, pinned? Integrals will take more work and cost a bit more. I personally am fine with no bolster.
    * Handle: Full tang, narrow hidden tang, or wa if anyone in interested in that. Pins? (yes, no, number).
    * Damascus Patterns. Maybe we choose four patterns -- or if someone wants a six-knife set, six patterns.

    Anyhow, food for thought. Give your preferences now or forever hold your peace. Even if no one wants any, I am still getting my one-off set Once we have these details I can get a price from Devin, and at that point the number of takers may determine the ultimate discount he is willing to give.

    As for me, I will probably just get a set of 4 knives.

    k.
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    Im in one way or the other....

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    I am on the fence atm. I love to do this, but its kinda getting to a little crunch time. Have to save funds for my nieces hs graduation in may. If it gets over 100-150 I would be out. I know more people in would make this cheaper. I don't want this to be a gorgan knot problem either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crothcipt View Post
    I don't want this to be a gorgan knot problem either.
    Yes, but Alexander solved that problem with a knife
    Okay - it was a sword, but it still solved it.

    Can't wait to see the final product.

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    Here is a sketch similar to the knife I have, I have kept the length the same (blade 5.5", handle 5" OAL 263mm) but made the blade wider to be closer to the dimensions of the steel billet. It has a ferrule which could be made of 302 stainless ( the original is brass). Regarding the handle width, I have taken measurements of several butter knives and the handles are 4mm, 6mm, up to 8.5mm at most. A handle which is not thick enough will be very difficult to drill for the tang, so maybe a slightly thick handle would be needed.

    [IMG width=900]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o170/josferi/kitchen/scan0001a.jpg[/IMG]

    Hi Mr Drinky, I tried sending you PM but it said your box is full.

    Here are the measurements of the original, it is rather slim from spine to edge, but if the standard billet is used that would mean grinding away about 40% of the steel. I made a sketch for a knife similar to the one I have, all the same curves except I just made the blade wider to make it closer to the size of a 1-1/4" damascus billet.

    Blade, tip to heal: 136mm
    Blade, tip to bolster: 138mm (the heal rounds up to the bolster)
    Handle Length: 124mm (3mm bolster+121mm handle)
    Width: 18mm at heel to 12 mm at tip
    Blade thickness at heel: 1.9mm
    Blade thickness at midpoint: 1.8mm
    Blade thickness at tip: 0.8mm

    My favorites for 4 damascus patterns are:

    Devin ladder
    Devin Firestorm
    Damasteel 20 turn twist
    Damasteel Rose

    Handles: Cocobolo, blackwood, faux MOP, faux ivory (or fossil)

    I have different kinds of wood sitting around, what if the customers provide handle material?? I know Stefan has plenty of materials, ha ha.

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    Sorry somehow I screwed up editing my post too many times.

    Here's the pic: (right click and select "open image" to view full screen)



    Oh yeah, I thought of an easy way to option a 4 piece set into a 6 piece set, 4 damascus knives plus 2 monosteel knives, one in satin finished 154CM and one in AE-BL etched black to match the damascus ones.

    Or, say you wanted a 4 pc set but cost was an issue, you could get 2 damascus and 2 monosteel knives. Or any combination of the above, eg. all 4 in monosteel.

    If it were me I'd want different handle material on each knife also. I think it'd be boring if everybody had the same handle materials, I don't know if Devin would consider it a pain in the butt if for example I wanted a unique material like synthetic ivory or faux MOP, rather than him having to source all the materials for all the knives, what if I send him a piece of mammoth ivory or koa or whatever etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by olpappy View Post
    Sorry somehow I screwed up editing my post too many times.

    Here's the pic: (right click and select "open image" to view full screen)



    Oh yeah, I thought of an easy way to option a 4 piece set into a 6 piece set, 4 damascus knives plus 2 monosteel knives, one in satin finished 154CM and one in AE-BL etched black to match the damascus ones.

    Or, say you wanted a 4 pc set but cost was an issue, you could get 2 damascus and 2 monosteel knives. Or any combination of the above, eg. all 4 in monosteel.

    If it were me I'd want different handle material on each knife also. I think it'd be boring if everybody had the same handle materials, I don't know if Devin would consider it a pain in the butt if for example I wanted a unique material like synthetic ivory or faux MOP, rather than him having to source all the materials for all the knives, what if I send him a piece of mammoth ivory or koa or whatever etc...
    Ok, I am bumping this thread.

    Last call for those interested. There was a lot of interest, but I want to move this along. I think there was a lot of good input, but not enough firm interest for Devin to work with larger numbers/discounts.

    If you are interested in getting 2, 4, or 6 knives please PM me along with any preferential specs (wood type, tang, pins, steel etc.) We can finish th rest via PM. Otherwise, I am going to order a one-off set of four with four different woods, different damascus patterns, full tang, and with two pins.

    I like olpappy's idea of the monosteel. If there is enough interest I will raise it with Devin, but if not, then I am going with straight Devin damascus.

    Last call.

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    I was just thinking about this today, and was gonna post a question. Well I forgot about it so now I don't have to.

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