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    Question Hattori KD Gyuto - where to get?

    Hello,

    This is my first post. I am from Austria, Europe - we don't have kangaroos in Austria. Since 2001, when I first saw a beautiful kitchen knife (in this case it was 3 pieces of Kobayashi Suminagashis: Deba, Usuba, Yanagiba), I always wanted to have such kind of a special knife. But, back then, I was still a student and could only dream of such a beauty. I have finished my studies quite a while ago, and recently I stumbled upon an article about those Kobayashi Suminagashi knives again. My desire for owning a beautiful kitchen knife has come back!

    I definitely appreciate looking at those Kobayashi Suminagashi knives, or traditional Japanese knives in general. But today I know that I prefer to work with a Western handle. To make a long story short, I have found my dream knife. It is a HATTORI KD Gyuto, either 210 or 240mm. Unfortunately those knives can't be bought anymore, I've heard/read all the stories and rumours about Mr. Hattori and his health situation.

    If anyone knows a place where to get one of these beauties, I would be more than happy if you could let me know (PM me, please). I've consulted the familiar shops as EE, JCK, Kin Knives (in the UK), Dick/Dictum (in Germany), I've even contacted two Russian shops in Moscow. So I guess finding such a knife - if available at all - would be fortune! But I never give up hope...

    Thank you for your help!

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    There were a couple in the BST section at the old forum a few weeks back. But it'll cost you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThEoRy View Post
    There were a couple in the BST section at the old forum a few weeks back. But it'll cost you.
    please apologize my stupid question, but where would I find this "old forum". and what does BST stand for? buy/sell/trade?

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    Buy/sell/trade.

    Now that you have 2 post it should be visible here. You can post a thread that you want a Hattori KD. It will however cost you, and yes its an ikon of the kitchen knives. However I would like to point out makers like Bill Burke and Devin Thomas for you, I think you will find their work as good or better than Hattori. If its damascus you are looking for, Devin Thomas is the master. My favorite patterns are: Bubblewrap, spirograph, ladder and feather. Both makers are on this forum, and you have a chance to speak with them

    Good Luck in your hunt for your grail


    Here is an example of Bills work:
    http://www.epicedge.com/shopexd.asp?id=89777
    http://www.epicedge.com/shopexd.asp?id=90061

    And Devin:
    http://www.epicedge.com/shopexd.asp?id=89773
    http://www.epicedge.com/shopexd.asp?id=89764

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    Quote Originally Posted by oivind_dahle View Post
    Buy/sell/trade.

    Now that you have 2 post it should be visible here. You can post a thread that you want a Hattori KD. It will however cost you, and yes its an ikon of the kitchen knives. However I would like to point out makers like Bill Burke and Devin Thomas for you, I think you will find their work as good or better than Hattori. If its damascus you are looking for, Devin Thomas is the master.
    Hello,

    thank you for your recommendations. I guess that buying knives is a very personal thing. In the past few weeks I've spent hours and hours in front of my computer reading about knives, searching for pics, and reading reviews. When it comes to esthetics, for me, nothing can beat a KD gyuto. I recently bought a 210mm forum's knife from Hattori (FH-6) and I love it. F&F are just perfect, my "old" Wuesthof Dreizack chef's knife is nothing against it.

    I have spotted a few alternative knives which I am interested in, mostly stainless, such as a 240mm forum's knife (another one from Hattori), a 240mm Blazen, Hiromoto AS (for its steel), and Tanaka's 240mm damascus gyuto (offered as "Katsuhiro" at Dick/Dictum in Germany). But somehow I realize that whatever I will buy will just be something that cannot replace this KD gyuto. I know that searching a KD is searching the holy grail or hunting a white buffalo, but hey, I wanna give it a try - I have to!

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    Your hunt might end here:
    http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/sh...hp?tid/919633/

    (hope its ok to link to this as he is new on forums)
    However that is the old forum, and its now like google+ (almost empty).
    That might be a chance. Tell us about your hunt (And start a thread here too in b/S/T)

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    A poster recently said they found 2 KDs in a shop in Japan but that seems to have been a one off and they got lucky. I hope your search has a happy ending

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    Good luck on the hunt, they are very nice knives, for the price you could get something pretty special from a custom maker, but understand there'd always be that question in the back of your head.
    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenStefano View Post
    A poster recently said they found 2 KDs in a shop in Japan but that seems to have been a one off and they got lucky.
    I am that poster, and I just came back from Japan with four of them, actually: 150 Petty, 180 Santoku, 210 Guyto and 270 Guyto. While rare, Hattori KDs ARE available in Japan, and I just sent the OP an e-mail telling him where to find a 210 Gyuto available for sale; I also know where they have a 150 Petty and a 180 Santoku available in Tokyo, so PM me if you are interested (to be fair, I will answer these PMs tomorrow, to give him a little lead time to contact the store first, which in one case is the same place as the gyuto).

    However, beware that the prices in Japan are not negociable (though you will get some discount if paying cash), and these knives sell for the recommended price shown on Hattori's web site (see here), plus 5% tax. So they will be expensive, much more so than shown on Koki's web site (the 270 Gyuto, for example, sells for 226,800 JPY with tax, which is roughly 2,750 USD! Expect to pay 1,990 USD for the 210 Gyuto, and 1,850 USD for the Santoku).

    I brought back other knives from Japan as well, but I will make a separate post with pictures soon...

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    Hello,

    maybe I can help you to find an unused 210mm KD Gyuto. If you are interested you can contact me. I am from Germany and my username there is fritzze).

    regards

    fritze
    Last edited by Dave Martell; 05-02-2012 at 03:47 PM. Reason: Edited to remove off site forum link.

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