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    petty advice for a lefty

    Been lurking this forum forever, and have some advice questions for all you knowledgeable weirdos. I posted this in the CKTG forum too, wanted to post it here as well to get advice from outside the shop and see if there are knives from elsewhere I should be considering

    I am in the market for a petty to use as my primary line knife. I know I want carbon, and would prefer a Japanese handle as Iíd like to try one out, but would be okay with western. 150 length, as Iím looking for something that wonít get in the way on the very tight line I work on.

    Iím left handed
    I do have sharpening supplies and am slowly starting to not suck at it. Waterstones. I have a medium and a couple fine, and am getting some honing supplies. At some point down the road Iíll pick up a rough, but want to make sure I know what Iím doing before I get that aggressive.

    Hereís what Iíve been looking at and why I havenít pulled the trigger on any of them. Looking for feedback on my choices and other options I may have missed.

    Konosuke White #2 petty 150 Ė this looks awesome and is basically in my price range, but Iíve heard itís extremely thin. I like thin, but I want something thatís versatile as I may end up doing any number of chores with it. And not everyone working on my line is very careful with knives, so Iím worried about the fragility?

    Tojiro ITK kurouchi petty 150 Ė Iíd be psyched to not spend a bunch of money, I can always get something fancier down the road if I decide I love petties. The big issue is the d grip. I understand I could sand down the handle to make it oval, but is the ferrule also d-shaped? That would probably be weird

    Moritaka Supreme petty 150 Ė starting to get to be more than I want to spend, for one. Also Iíve heard on other forums about grind issues with Moritaka.

    Kanehiro petty 150 Ė definitely more than I want to spend. Again, this is for use on a busy line with a lot of people who arenít very careful with their gear, so Iím hesitant to spend a lot and then be freaking out on people for looking at my knife the wrong way.

    So thatís my list. Feedback? Iím also interested on if any of them have more or less symmetrical grinds. I understand theyíre all 50/50 bevels, but are they also 50/50 grinds?


    For point of reference, other knives in my slowly building kit are:
    Hiromoto AS 210 gyuto (ordered with lefty bevel from JCK)
    Henckels 210 chef knife, donít know what model
    Fujiwara FKH 270 carbon gyuto (ordered with levty bevel from JCK)
    CCK 1301 cleaver (ordered recently from CKTG, sweet!)
    Shun small paring knife


    Thanks!

    Mark

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    Welcome!

    The only one I can comment on is the Tojiro korouchi petty (though I have the 120). It is a cheap knife and the grind/heat treatment is questionable--small overgrind on one side, and still popping out carbon granules after many sharpenings. Other than that the handle is fine, it is rather small but not very D-shaped...feels fine in either hand...yes the ferrule is d-shaped as well. I don't work in a pro kitchen, but wouldn't think this would be a great knife for heavy use. One other note is that it is not too highly reactive. Good luck, and I am sure that with the help of the people here, you will find an excellent knife somewhere.

    Cheers

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    I bought a Zakuri 150mm Petty from Jon at JKI a couple of weeks ago. It has seen a fair amount of use in that time and it is a serious winner. He doesn't have them blue super (cuz I bought the last one I guess) but he has it in Blue #1. The grind on mine was basically flawless. Fit and finish were great and I think it has the nicest ho wood handle I have owned.

    I owned the moritaka for over a year and just recently gave it to my boss cuz he loves it. Good little knife basically a skinny petty sized santoku. Takes a great edge really really quickly but doesn't and never did cut as well as the Zakuri when I first sharpened the Zakuri. I would not hesitate to buy a Zakuri. I will never ever buy a Moritaka again because of grind issues and how reactive the cladding was. My petty didn't seem to have grind issues (except for the ones I gave it LOL) but i wouldn't want to roll the dice like that.

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    http://www.japaneseknifeimports.com/...-wa-petty.html
    Here's the web address for the Zakuri I think it fits your budget.

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    Tanaka makes a super affordable blue steel wa-petty, as well...

    I've sanded down d shaped handles and horn ferrules before. It works fine, although not sure of the plastic ferrule with the likes of the Tojiro ITK...
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    thanks, I've been checking out the zakuri as well and should have included it on my list.

    Any place to view/buy the tanaka besides ebay? Heard poor reviews on the one ebay seller, I forget his moniker at the moment

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    [QUOTE=femurboy;111445]thanks, I've been checking out the zakuri as well and should have included it on my list.

    +1 on the Zakuri

    I too have a Zakuri Blue 1 (though not a petty) and should say that it is an excellent knife...very thin at the cutting edge and gets extremely sharp...

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    I use a Tanaka I got off of ebay for my petty work. It is a 150 and less than 100$. I am liking the blue #2. It takes a beating and still gives more. Easy to sharpen, with a 50/50 bevel you can alter it if wanted.

    I haven't got to any of the ones listed yet but from here they sound like good knives too.

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    Righty D-shaped handles are equally comfortable for lefties. To be honest, I like 'em.

    Oh, and Tanakas are pretty sweet!
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    [QUOTE=chinacats;111447]
    Quote Originally Posted by femurboy View Post
    thanks, I've been checking out the zakuri as well and should have included it on my list.

    +1 on the Zakuri

    I too have a Zakuri Blue 1 (though not a petty) and should say that it is an excellent knife...very thin at the cutting edge and gets extremely sharp...
    i also like my zakuri petty in blue number 1. If I could purchase it all over again I might however have gotten blue super just for a little extra edge retention. whats great about the zakuri pettys is that their thick enough to handle tougher tasks like poultry. No flex at all in these pettys.

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