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    NY just passed a law stating you cannot publish public information about gun owners, from Decembers fiasco dealing with The Journal News.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFKitchenknivesguy View Post
    Offensive and appalling? Over state much? Send me your address and I'll send you a handwritten apology. My point was that the US government is not so swell when times are tough, and we need the ability to fight back. We can go back and forth all day, but I sense that it would amount to nothing.

    As a US military member, I swore to uphold the Constitution against all enemies, foriegn and domestic. I see a lot of domestic enemies these days.
    Also, as part of your oath, you also agreed to obey the orders of the President of the United States. So if you're going to "fight back" against an order of the government, I guess that would be a breach of your oath.

    And, it was offensive and appalling to Japanese Americans, which is what I am. And your comments and especially those who were interned, and subsequently fought in WWII as part of the 442nd Battalion or 100th Regiment because one of the well documented reasons why Japanese Americans did not fight back was their faith in the US, what it stood for, and belief that by not fighting back, and in turn, fighting for the US (and its government), they were doing the right thing. Had they done as you proposed (which you didn't even bother to respond to), they would have been massacred. The pictures of people being taken to staging locations and, ultimately, internment camps show that US military with rifles, machine guns were the ones herding the Japanese Americans. Fighting force with force then would have resulted in the death of many civilians (which, based on your position, is apparently acceptable).

    You don't owe me an apology. You owe an apology to these people because, according to you, had they had guns, they should have fought back when the threat of internment came. (Frankly, I'm positive some of them had guns, they just chose not to use them.)

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    You obviously don't understand Japanese Americans, know enough about our culture, or what motivated the thousands of Japanese American young men to join the US military and fight and die in WWII for the US after having been interned. You owe THEM an apology. They believed in the Constitution. They believed in the US. They are heroes. A number of them are also my friends. That's why your comment was offensive and appalling.

    And you - you would obviously fight or shoot back, rather than use the democratic process (or rather, fight back against the democratic process), which is set forth in the Constitution as well as the rights of States to govern. You took an oath to uphold the entire Constitution, but you choose to cherry pick what portions of the Constitution you choose to "uphold."
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    Before it gets too crazy let's shut this down.

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