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Thread: Dave Martell's Core Set of Sharpening Stones

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    Dave, I've been using this line-up for a few years now, with the addition of a Naniwa 3k SS for single bevels, and the occasional progression to 8 & even 10k when I feel really ambitious.
    My only issue is with the Beston 500. As the stone wears down I've found some random inclusions, and it's an enormous pain in the ass to flatten. In light some of the other stones in this grit range that have recently become available, would you still consider the Beston as the top choice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMel View Post
    Dave, How does the bester 1200 compare to the bester 2k? wondering if I should get it and the rika.

    Hi Melvin,
    The Bester 1200x is essentially a true 1k stone, something that gets used both in transition from really coarse stones to remove scratches as well as the starting point for touch ups when dropping to a coarser stone isn't required. The Bester 2k is similar yet doesn't (IMO) do either of those things as well. The weird thing is that if you laid all three Besters (1000, 1200, 2000x) on a table and let people try them all side by side you never know what people will chose as their preference so it's all very subjective. I'm not sure that I would tell you to replace/upgrade your 2k with the 1200x but if you had nothing I'd point you towards the 1200x as the safer bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecchef View Post
    Dave, I've been using this line-up for a few years now, with the addition of a Naniwa 3k SS for single bevels, and the occasional progression to 8 & even 10k when I feel really ambitious.
    My only issue is with the Beston 500. As the stone wears down I've found some random inclusions, and it's an enormous pain in the ass to flatten. In light some of the other stones in this grit range that have recently become available, would you still consider the Beston as the top choice?

    I have a love/hate relationship with the Beston 500x, there's no denying this as it's not perfect, yet it won't allow me to remove it from my bucket. The thing with the Beston is that it does some things that other stones don't do as well. For instance the cutting of a crisp bevel is one of it's attributes and this is because it wears a lot slower than it cuts. Another worthy mention goes to it's ability to tackle AS (Aogami Super steel) like nothing else I've used. One of the things I like about this stone is it's lack of scratchability to the sides of blades (from loose grit) that it doesn't provide which is rare thing in coarse stones

    It has it's drawbacks though, as you mentioned it's not so easy to flatten and I've found it's not the best thing for working on really wide bevels. I haven't seen the inclusion issue you mentioned and that's with about 15 or so stones that I've used up but I believe you since who knows what gets into a stone when it's being made.

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    15 used up 500's....

    now that's a lot of sharpening!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NO ChoP! View Post
    15 used up 500's....

    now that's a lot of sharpening!
    And it's not the only coarse stone he uses....



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    Funny, as many other stones as I have, I keep coming back to the 1200 Bester and Rika 5K, then finish on J Nats from there. The edge off the Rika is pretty nice and the 1200 works quick, great combo of stones!!!

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    I love the feel of the Rika 5k. I found an unidentified natural in the kitchen here that I'm bringing back to life. Looks promising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecchef View Post
    Dave, I've been using this line-up for a few years now, with the addition of a Naniwa 3k SS for single bevels, and the occasional progression to 8 & even 10k when I feel really ambitious.
    My only issue is with the Beston 500. As the stone wears down I've found some random inclusions, and it's an enormous pain in the ass to flatten. In light some of the other stones in this grit range that have recently become available, would you still consider the Beston as the top choice?
    What is it about the 3k ss that you like for single bevels and how or for what purpose do you use it? I have this stone just laying around as I never really liked it much or found it's niche.
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    Got a Beston 500 finally! Is it OK to leave as a PermaSoaker? I have my Beston 1200, Rika 5K and Synthetic Blue Aoto in the bucket constantly, OK to add the 500 as well?

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