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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAndre View Post
    I'm actually going to be in Venice tomorrow morning / early afternoon, if he's open on Sunday I'll check him out.

    Not to sound pessimistic though,... but would a Gengetsu 240mm Stainless Clad White #2 Wa-Gyuto being bought at retail ($365 at his store) be better than getting the Shun Fuji 10'' for $300 or the Shun Bob Kramer Meiji 8'' for $280 at auction? They both "msrp" for literally twice the price, and I'm sure there's a pile of marketing going into that, and that Japanese Knife Imports has good prices (or you guys wouldn't have recommended them),...but $300 on auction is pretty damn cheap.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAndre View Post
    also... I'm sure the aesthetics shouldn't particularly come into account that much, but the Shun knives are VERY pretty, while that Gengetsu knife is very plain looking.

    ie: While it may be a better utilitarian knife, it's not as flashy, and I like flash... people watch me cook fairly regularly (BBQs nearly every weekend, 15-20 people, sometimes we do Iron Chef challenges.... I generally win).
    I have used all three of those knives and yes, a thousand times yes, the Gengetsu is better than either of those Shuns. It really isn't even close.

    As for aesthetics, the more time you spend here, the more you will appreciate the beauty of a "simpler" handmade knife and less and less you will be attracted to factory beauty queens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyChance View Post
    I have used all three of those knives and yes, a thousand times yes, the Gengetsu is better than either of those Shuns. It really isn't even close.

    As for aesthetics, the more time you spend here, the more you will appreciate the beauty of a "simpler" handmade knife and less and less you will be attracted to factory beauty queens.

    See? That's what I wanted to hear.

    Although, and I'm sure I don't have to say so, but there's something attractive and pretty about damascus patterns, and an aesthetically pleasing handle... I see these lower end knives that you guys are suggesting, and while I'll probably end up with one of them I can't help but feel a little disappointed that it isn't wavy fun metal...

    and if it comes to having to up the anty to the $500 range for a quality hand made blade,...that happens to have those aesthetically pleasing components, then I'll have to just wait another paycheck and do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeC View Post
    If you want true flash you need to up your game a bit...
    I realize... when I was obsessing over the idea of the honyaki yanagiba I found one in the $1200+ range that was very pretty and had amazing reviews, I actually found it through this site.

    But ended up not getting it, I had the cash but family emergencies came up.... which was probably for the best, I would have ruined it.

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    If you like the damascus look, check out the makers that are vendors on this forum. But the better the knife, the more it will require from the user in skills and maintenance. Once you have used a truly great knife, such as anything from JKI or recommended here, you may care less about flashy appearance and appreciate pure performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAndre View Post
    See? That's what I wanted to hear.

    Although, and I'm sure I don't have to say so, but there's something attractive and pretty about damascus patterns, and an aesthetically pleasing handle... I see these lower end knives that you guys are suggesting, and while I'll probably end up with one of them I can't help but feel a little disappointed that it isn't wavy fun metal...

    and if it comes to having to up the anty to the $500 range for a quality hand made blade,...that happens to have those aesthetically pleasing components, then I'll have to just wait another paycheck and do that.
    I think you should 'wait another paycheck' and get a Devin Thomas.

    Good luck in your search!
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    You want bling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassEye View Post
    If you like the damascus look, check out the makers that are vendors on this forum. But the better the knife, the more it will require from the user in skills and maintenance. Once you have used a truly great knife, such as anything from JKI or recommended here, you may care less about flashy appearance and appreciate pure performance.

    Welcome!
    Thank you. I am extremely well trained in knife use, I grew up learning how to make sushi from a family friend that was an acclaimed sushi chef... however that ended when he died about 10 years ago now (when I was 15). He never really got around to teaching me the proper sharpening techniques though, just the use of said yanagiba and proper cleaning.

    Also... I live in Hollywood though... I don't think I'll ever loose my taste for a little flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeC View Post
    You want bling?

    Yes, that is gorgeous. But...what are we talking here? $2000? $3000? $10,000? more? I'm trying to be vaguely responsible here, I'm only 24....that can come when I've actually established my career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAndre View Post
    See? That's what I wanted to hear.

    Although, and I'm sure I don't have to say so, but there's something attractive and pretty about damascus patterns, and an aesthetically pleasing handle... I see these lower end knives that you guys are suggesting, and while I'll probably end up with one of them I can't help but feel a little disappointed that it isn't wavy fun metal...

    and if it comes to having to up the anty to the $500 range for a quality hand made blade,...that happens to have those aesthetically pleasing components, then I'll have to just wait another paycheck and do that.
    I'm not sure it's right to say lower end knives. They are leaps and bounds above the shuns. That being said, most damascus blades that are going to perform on the same level as the gengetsu are going to be a hefty bit pricier than what these knives go for. Sure there are going to be people that rave about the shuns, but it's because they haven't tried anything better. Those of us here have, and therefore, we try to guide people towards knives that truly are a joy to use. If they do look a little plain to you, there are ways to spruce them up a bit, like custom handles. If you are truly set on the damascus, and aren't willing to shell out the 900 to 2500 for the ones Jon sells, I'd check out JapaneseChefKnife.com They've got some very nice stuff that should fall close to your budget. Just my opinion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Edge View Post
    I'm not sure it's right to say lower end knives. They are leaps and bounds above the shuns. That being said, most damascus blades that are going to perform on the same level as the gengetsu are going to be a hefty bit pricier than what these knives go for. Sure there are going to be people that rave about the shuns, but it's because they haven't tried anything better. Those of us here have, and therefore, we try to guide people towards knives that truly are a joy to use. If they do look a little plain to you, there are ways to spruce them up a bit, like custom handles. If you are truly set on the damascus, and aren't willing to shell out the 900 to 2500 for the ones Jon sells, I'd check out JapaneseChefKnife.com They've got some very nice stuff that should fall close to your budget. Just my opinion...
    I would definitely be willing to shell out that amount of money down the line, but I think the more responsible thing would be to start a little lower.

    and...I didn't mean to be insulting by saying "lower end", just that comparitively they are the lower end, as in $300ish is MUCH MUCH cheaper than a $2000 work of art knife that I would use until my death bed...and again, being 24, I can't justify spending that just yet.

    So I relegate myself to the lower end of the spectrum.

    Unless there's someone in LA that will sell me a used knife, and take that Microtech HALO V I mentioned as partial... I have no use for such a knife, and I don't have my concealed carry permit in CA,...just in FL (and the 40ish other states that accept that).

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