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    So now that I moved to Texas and it's going to start getting very hot, I decided I'm going to make my own cold brew for iced coffee in the morning. I finally picked up a grinder. I decided to cheap out and get a hand crank since I'll be making coffee concentrate and I'll only need to grind maybe once a week, plus I'll most likely be using it in my office and don't want to disturb others.

    I bought this grinder

    http://www.amazon.com/Hario-Skerton-...7615277&sr=8-4

    And I'll brew in this French press

    http://www.amazon.com/Bodum-French-P...7615400&sr=1-2

    So am I doing OK for an office cold brew setup? What type of beans are good for iced coffee? I'm just not sure where I should even begin.

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    You gonna drink it straight up, or add sugar and/ or milk?

    Chilling the coffee will dull some of the finer flavor nuances, and adding milk (and to a lesser extent sugar) will dull it even more. So while I do not have any specific bean/ roaster recommendations, just keep in mind going for single origins, etc. may not provide much benefit.

    I'm not knocking iced coffee though -- I like it every now and then.
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    Kyle if you want iced coffee you will be far better off to brew in a toddy brewer, cold French press isn't that clean and I feel like the end product can often be more bitter than it should be.
    Try: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...1W20QKMH481733

    I have a couple hand grinders myself, nothing at all wrong with using them. Despite also having 2k in electric grinders, I enjoy using mine frequently, especially when doing the more manual process of pour-over.

    For beans one needs to realize that in cold brew more of the nutty and earthy tones come forward and that you lose all of the floral and mostly all of the fruitiness. So as David said, your bean choice should reflect this, and lesser coffees will taste better as an iced brew than they would have hot. Personally I still believe in drinking single origin iced coffee though, just don't spend $25/lb on a Guat because it exhibits a beautiful honeysuckle note. I like to look for things with black fruit and chocolate as descriptors, as well as good earthiness. Also, while I don't mind spending $25+/lb on something I will vac-pot, I try to keep an iced candidate around 15-18. Some suggestions for origins would be Brazil, Nicaragua, Papa New Guinea, Bali, Ethiopia.

    If you really get into it you can get an ice drip brewer one day, that is actually next on my coffee item list.
    It produces an end product that is oddly rich and unctuous, picture a cocktail of Frangelico and Kahlua on ice. I find 4oz to be an ample serving on ice, and it also dilutes well for a daily type drink.

    Find it Here: http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Drip-Coff.../dp/B002RL9DW6

    I hope some of this info is useful for you. Happy brewing.
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    Vietnamese iced coffee is deliciously sweet and addictive, not to mention easy!
    http://coffeegeek.com/guides/vietnameseiced

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    A trip to the coffee geek web site might be very helpful to you in this endeavor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeC View Post
    A trip to the coffee geek web site might be very helpful to you in this endeavor.

    went to coffee geek site and may try making iced Vietnamese coffee
    usps just delivered Ethiopia Yirgacheffe Adado from Stumptown Coffee Roasters - just in time as the local beans are almost gone.
    Was able to dial-in Red Bird for tasty espresso/Americanos - typically about 50% crema. Also 50/50 blend was good with darker roasted local beans.

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    I'm using Ethiopia Mordecofe single origin espresso roast organic hereloom from Stumptown. Whew!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wenus2 View Post
    Kyle if you want iced coffee you will be far better off to brew in a toddy brewer, cold French press isn't that clean and I feel like the end product can often be more bitter than it should be.
    Try: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...1W20QKMH481733

    I have a couple hand grinders myself, nothing at all wrong with using them. Despite also having 2k in electric grinders, I enjoy using mine frequently, especially when doing the more manual process of pour-over.

    For beans one needs to realize that in cold brew more of the nutty and earthy tones come forward and that you lose all of the floral and mostly all of the fruitiness. So as David said, your bean choice should reflect this, and lesser coffees will taste better as an iced brew than they would have hot. Personally I still believe in drinking single origin iced coffee though, just don't spend $25/lb on a Guat because it exhibits a beautiful honeysuckle note. I like to look for things with black fruit and chocolate as descriptors, as well as good earthiness. Also, while I don't mind spending $25+/lb on something I will vac-pot, I try to keep an iced candidate around 15-18. Some suggestions for origins would be Brazil, Nicaragua, Papa New Guinea, Bali, Ethiopia.

    If you really get into it you can get an ice drip brewer one day, that is actually next on my coffee item list.
    It produces an end product that is oddly rich and unctuous, picture a cocktail of Frangelico and Kahlua on ice. I find 4oz to be an ample serving on ice, and it also dilutes well for a daily type drink.

    Find it Here: http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Drip-Coff.../dp/B002RL9DW6

    I hope some of this info is useful for you. Happy brewing.
    I had a Toddy and loved it, but my roommate broke the carafe that came with it and then it got cold again so I stopped cold brewing. When I moved I chucked the remnants of it. I honestly only went with the French press because it's all in a much more elegant package than the Toddy, and since this will be in my office I just figured it would look a little nicer. I'm not questioning you, but if cold brew is simply soaking grinds in water overnight and then filtering out the beans, how does the French press produce a more bitter product? My plan was to press and pour the remaining concentrate in a separate carafe for storage in the fridge. If the Toddy will be better I will return the press. I wanted an Hourglass brewer since that seems like a much more elegant design than the Toddy but I guess it's discontinued now.

    I've seen those cold drip coffee makers, but I only drink iced coffee when I need my fix in the summer months and a hot cup of coffee doesn't sound too appealing when it's 100+ outside. Doing cold brew myself is to just save me from spending $4 daily at Starbucks.

    Thanks for all the advice!

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    Too bad you tossed the Toddy pieces, you can get a polycarbonate replacement carafe for like $10.
    But hey, if you already have the FP then go for it, I thought you were buying a new device.
    Like the differences in most brewing methods, assuming all other factors to be equal, the wild card is the means of filtering. The FP doesn't filter off oils, which is its draw for hot coffee because it contains more flavonoids. IMHO I find they become tannic and the cold coffee from the FP doesn't hold as well as from the Toddy over time. Your experience may be different. Also, I haven't tried this particular design of the FP for this, just the standard rig.
    Either way you're getting a superior product compared to pouring brewed coffee over ice, so good for you for doing things right.
    I do love a good cup of iced coffee in the summer!
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    Just cold brew it in the FP then pour it through a number 4 filter into a carafe. That's what i would do.

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