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Tristan

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Hi, I'm thinking of shipping one over from the states and wanted to know what the thoughts were on this product.

- Best uses
- Differences between using a grill and the BGE
- Usability and clean up issues
- Which size is best (my constraints are space, as this would go into an apartment - for the occasional balcony cookout)
- Best uses for the BGE that a conventional electric oven can't reproduce
- Things that you would regularly cook with it

I'm also wondering how moveable it is on those wheels it comes with. Wondering if I can wheel it to the pool deck of the apartment to have pool parties... but then it would need to leave the house and take a ride in the lift and then get to the pool.
 
I don't own one, wish I did. But I've cooked on them plenty of times. Great investment. PM lowercasebill, I think he's very involved in the BGE community.
 
I have a large and it's very heavy and awkward to lift and move around. You probably won't do it more than once unless you had to. The main advantage of a BGE over any other grill is it's versatility; it's capable of holding steady temperatures between 80* (for cold smoking cheese and the like) all the way up to 700*+ for pizza. I've smoked cheese, salmon, pork butt, brisket, grilled steaks, veggies, baked bread & cookies, made soup and chili etc. I've even used it for cooking sides when I had a big Thanksgiving dinner and ran out of oven room (if you use charcoal only you won't get a heavy smoke flavor). It's an incredible grill and I recommend it to anyone that can afford it. I think the large is the most versatile BGE, but a medium might be better for apartment use.
 
+1 to what Kyle said. I have had a large BGE for about 8-9 years now. It is great and very versitile but a pain to move. A small might even be best for apartment use but it is pretty small and may not be of practical use for parties and such.
 
I recently purchased a large BGE and can provide some perspective. On the whole, I recommend it. In my mind the strength of the BGE is that it performs several different cooking tasks very well. This includes direct grilling, low temp smoking, simulating a wood fired oven (pizza/bread) etc. However, in my experience it doesn’t do any one thing as well as a tool dedicated to the task. So it’s important in your decision making that you place a value on the multi-tasking flexibility.

BGE vs. gas grilling: In my mind this is a no brainer. Gas grills are moderately more convenient – but that’s it. The flavor from the BGE (using real wood charcoaland wood chunks) is hands down better. And as charcoal grills go, the BGE shines in the area of convenience. It’s easy to light, heats up to temp quickly, is easy to deal with when you are finished and is economical in it’s charcoal use. I have a large built in gas grill plumbed directly to natural gas (can’t get more convenient than that) but I regularly go to the BGE instead for the flavor. One tip – ignore the little ash rake that comes with it– it will make a mess on your deck. Buy a cheap shop vac and vacuum out the ashes.

BGE vs. other charcoal grills: I’m sure I’ll get some argument here from BGE die-hards, but in my opinion the best charcoal/wood fired grill is the Cajun Grill. (www.cajungrill.com) As purely a grill it gets hotter, has more instant adjustment in temp, and the benefit of being able to easily vary the distance from flame to food. In particular, if you want to do a reverse sear (low/slow first, high temp sear at the end) the Cajun has more flexibility, as it’s easier to get very hot again. On the other hand, the Cajun takes more work, uses more charcoal, and despite what their website says is not a good smoker.

BGE for smoking: The BGE does a very credible job smoking, but again not with the control and longevity of a dedicated smoker. If you are a BBQ diehard, the best smokers I’ve ever used are made by Klose.(www.bbqpits.com) If you want a super convenient smoker, that does a truly credible smoke, get a Cookshack. (www.cookshack.com) I can set mine to smoke overnight and never need to check on it. If you don’t grill that much but love BBQ, you could get a small Cookshack and a decent Weber charcoal grill all for the price of the BGE.

BGE as wood fired oven: This to me is the weakest point of the BGE. With it’s place setter and pizza stone you can make decent pizza and bread, but to be honest we can make better bread in our indoor oven with cheap clay tiles. And it’s not really fair to compare it to a wood fired oven.

If you want one grill to do all of the things – get the BGE. It’s very well built and should last a long time. If you think you’re only going to grill, look at the Cajun – you’ll save money but it won’t be as convenient.

As far as size and portability: Unfortunately the cooking area is not that large. You really need a large size if you plan to cook for a group. On the other hand, I don't find it particularly hard to move. We don't use the nest - we have our sset on a wall. However, I have moved it with one other person without too much trouble. I imagine this would be easier on the wheeled nest.

Hope this helps and good luck. Feel free to ask questions!
 
I dont have a BGE but purchased a kamado grill in april of this year. I have used it to sear, grill, bake and smoke a variety of meals for family and friends and could not be happier with its performance. I can't speak to the longevity of the unit but it is lighter than an egg, less prone to crack and waaaaaay cheaper. Also it gets hot fast but can hold low and slow bbq temps for long periods with little to no adjustment.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_131712-49769-6719_?productId=3609214&site=shopLocal
 
Hi, I'm thinking of shipping one over from the states and wanted to know what the thoughts were on this product.

- Best uses
- Differences between using a grill and the BGE
- Usability and clean up issues
- Which size is best (my constraints are space, as this would go into an apartment - for the occasional balcony cookout)
- Best uses for the BGE that a conventional electric oven can't reproduce
- Things that you would regularly cook with it

I'm also wondering how moveable it is on those wheels it comes with. Wondering if I can wheel it to the pool deck of the apartment to have pool parties... but then it would need to leave the house and take a ride in the lift and then get to the pool.

AFKitchenknivesguy is out of pocket right now or he would have answered you. I mentioned your question to him and he said "tell him to buy once, cry once".

There is a thread about the BGE here somewhere.

Keith
 
thanks for your help with the vst and bottomless portafilter,, time for me to help you spend some of your money:D.
a large BGE weighs 140lbs. look on their website for the nest handler that will make taking it down the lift and to the pool much easier.
all of the other posts had good info. like alton brown says "no uni taskers" you can make anything on the egg except grits which needs to be stirred too often . i have made paella several times. as far as using it as a smoker there are many competition bbq teams that use the BGE and win [a lot] i competed for several years with a team that cooked on BGE's .. google "dizzy pig"
you cannot get the real smoked flavor out of a conventional oven and you will find chicken soooo much more moist. my sons did not want to eat the first chicken i cooked it was so moist they thought it was undercooked. you can take a costco choice rib eye a baked potato and tomato with blue cheese and moderate bottle of red and make a meal to rival Mortons or seafire save your self $350 and smoke a cigar at the table and not get a dui! .. the bge excels at steak. as you will not be moving it often the large is your best choice. you were gracious in helping me with my espresso accesories.. please do not hesitate to email.
p.s. you can use the egg in any weather . i have cooked on mine when it was 0 degress f. my canadian friends -20 and worse.. no problem
 
AFKitchenknivesguy is out of pocket right now or he would have answered you. I mentioned your question to him and he said "tell him to buy once, cry once".

There is a thread about the BGE here somewhere.

Keith

Thanks Keith. I have been in the field for the last month and rarely get internet service. Let me try to give my experience. I love my egg for so many reasons. I've done just about everything on it except for baking sweets. Here is my answers to your questions:

Best uses - Steaks are probably better than anyplace you can get, and it will cost you mucho less yet taste better. Pizza was very good and rivals my favorite pizza shop; different since it had a smoky flavor. My favorite thing to cook on it is a halved chicken. I can direct cook it, turn it every 30 mins, for three hours and not burn it. No Weber will ever be able to do that. It comes with a crispy skin, pink/smoky meat and falling apart tender. It's simply amazing. Brisket is amazingly simple with the plate setter. I have some extra tools to make it a no brainer and it's drool worthy. Smoking is average, not as simple as one may think. Since the meat is over the plate setter or coals, you have a hard time adding wood chips after the meat is on the grill.
Differences - I still keep my Weber, it's good for steak and indirect cooking but I rarely use it anymore. Webers are cool, but don't hold a flame to BGE's. You get what you pay for.
Usability/cleanup - Simple simple simple. I buy the pretreated wood composite cubes and they light right away. Open the bottom vent, keep the top open, and in 20 mins you are ready to grill. It's self cleaning, though you will have to brush the rack and do minor ash cleanup. I actually use the ash tool and find it easy to use. I put a garbage bag underneath and sweep the ashes after it's cool, normally before I start the next grill session - many days later.
Which size - I say large for your needs. It's not that big compared to a large Weber, but it is very heavy, I mean 200lbs like heavy. Not something you can easily move...over course get a nest with wheels and that helps a whole lot. I wish I bought the extra large, as I think it would be better for my needs. Large is the most popular model, for good reason. I'm a more than average griller though.
BGE versus conventional oven - umm flavor times 100
Regularly cook on it - as I said I love chicken on it, by far my favorite thing. Steak is unbelievable but I don't cook many steaks to be eaten later, for obvious reasons. To sell the chicken some more, I sponsor a cadet from Ecuador at the USAF Academy and I made the chicken for him last week. He said it was the best thing he ever ate. I wish I could take the credit.

BTW I move mine all the time on my deck, it's heavy but even when it's hot you can still touch it due to the insulation. Tips I've learned:

Keep it full with charcoal, keep the ashes clean after every use. I clean the ashes before the next time I use it.
Buy some gadgets like a remote time and something to keep the temp stable. It's amazingly stable, but it adds peace of mind. I sleep with my remote and haven't been woken once; ok just once.
I don't use the plate setter as much as I thought I would. It's a must tool, but you can keep the temp so low you can direct cook and still have an awesome product afterwards.
I don't smoke as much as I thought I would. The natural juices/drippings provide a robust flavor for anything you are cooking. It's pretty cool.
Buy a high heat gasket if you plan on making steaks and pizza. I busted my gasket the first time I made steaks, but the small investment is worth it. No issues since.
Most BGE's come as a package. Be sure to get a nest, side tables for extra room, ash tool, plate setter, and pizza stone. The grid lifter is handy and worth the $15. Other than that, don't buy the other BGE crap/accessories. They are overpriced and you can get much better for less.
 
Another Egghead here. I have a large and a mini. I use mine at least 2-3 times a week and sometimes more. Best uses for me are chicken, steak and pizza. I have also cooked 4 large Boston butts at one time and yes, it was pretty full. Like bill, I am trying to rid myself of unitaskers, so I really like the flexibility I have with the egg. The biggest difference between another charcoal grill and an egg for me has been temperature control and stability over time. I also agree with bill on the moistness of grilled chicken, it is fantastic. Cleanup is no big deal unless you only do low temp smoking. As for size, you will have to balance the weight and the capacity you need. There are multilevel cooking options available at the ceramic grill store. For things that cannot be duplicated in the oven, pizza and anything cooked low and slow with smoke. My regular cooks are chicken, steak, pizza, ribs and pulled pork.

PS. If something happened to my egg, my WIFE would go buy a replacement tomorrow. That is the only thing I own I can say that about.:laugh:
 
Just back from a week out at work - heck of a week. Good to be home.

Amazing responses, and not a single lukewarm one! Ok - I'll have to speak to a friend who is relocating back home to check the logistics. He gets a free shipping relocation perk - i get a BGE :D

I'm just concerned about size, especially for apartment use. I would love a large, but I'll see if a medium can accommodate what i'd do almost as well, and be easier to manhandle.

Odd question time - how much smoke does it output? Particularly for apartment use, I'm sure the neighbors will be more amenable if it isn't spewing large amounts of smoke all night. BBQ is one of the glories of living in the USA - here we hardly get the opportunity to do any BBQ.

Even if it is subpar - I would be glad to utilise it as a smoker if it can pass muster.

LCB - was a small thing, and thanks much for your help! All the rest, I can sense the passion for the BGE just coming off this thread!
 
Tristan -

Regarding your question...I can't imagine the smoke output offending anyone. Once you damper it down to the low smoking temp, you're burning very little wood at a time. One of the great features of the egg is how contained and airtight it is. By comparison, at the same temp range my Klose offset puts out a lot more smoke. Smoke is hard to see on film, so it's not a real good indicator, but there are tons of youtube videos of people doing a competition style cook with their Egg. It gives you an ideal of just how little smoke.

And for the record - I would never call it a subpar smoker. The food results are 100% the equal of any smoker. I personally think there are other options that are more user friendly for doing a long cook, but as someone above pointed out, there are many, many competition teams using the Egg.

Based on your criteria I think it's perfect for you :doublethumbsup:
 
Agreed on all above points. Once the fire has calmed the smoke is very very mild. It will plume up when you first light it but settle after 20 minutes or so. I think you can avoid this heavy initial smoke if you invest $40 into a hand held MAPP torch at Home Depot. My understanding is these things can get an Egg ready in under 5 minutes.

Also, smoking on an Egg is absoltely not subpar. It puts out MUCH better BBQ than my dad's $3800 Fast Eddy by Cookshack, although nothing is easier to use than the Cookshack. Flavor wise it's hard to beat traditional offsets like the Klose, but that in no way implies the Egg is "subpar".
 
If I could ever resist buying knives, I might see one of these in my future.
 
while i still recommend the large with the nest handler a medium probably makes more sense [which i often lack when it comes to all things BGE]
when the egg is damped down to all night bbq temps there is not much smoke.. the only real smoke you will get from bbq is the first couple if hours when you have smoke wood chunks on the egg to flavor the meat and get your smoke ring. most smoke you will get out the egg is grilling chicken thighs direct and that smoke is from the fat. guy on the bge forum has temper issues and pissed off his neighbors with the smoke ......threats back and forth and such..... cooler heads recommended he give the neighbors some egged chicken and some ribs ..they are friends now and his elderly neighbors are grateful for the food he provides. since good bbq is lacking where you are a rack or two of ribs at the pool for the neighbors and you will find them asking you do do bbq for when they have company. neighbor asked me to do pulled pork for her sons going away party. 32lbs of butt on the large..
link is to my redneck arkansas biker friend he cooked on a medium for years and now has mini small and medium no large, click on his posts you will be surprised how much food he pulls off a medium. dont be misled by his spelling and downhome attitude. he is very bright , a great home cook has a boardsmith board and a couple of japanese knives [my influence as you probably guessed]
http://www.greeneggers.com/index.ph...option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=112&func=search
 
This is the torch I was talking about earlier. My understanding is you need MAPP, not propane as it doesn't get hot enough. I've seen these at Lowe's and Home Depot. They supposedly get the lump ready in minutes.

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i have been egging for many years now. mapp is hotter but propane works just fine . i use both and at the moment the mapp is next to my large and the propane is next to my mini ..... many use a weed burner from harbor freight ,, i have a red dragon weed burner google it .. :D.. 500,000 btu's 2300 degress f.. that is the fastset way to light the egg sounds like a jet engine scares the neighbors... i like that part a lot. . lots of guys use the compressed woodchip fire starters .. cooking oil on a paper towel., 90% ethyl alc soaked into a few pieces of lump or a looftlighter [or heat gun which is much cheaper] i also have looftlighter ..
 
Had an egg for 10+ years. Would agree that it isn't the best at one thing but amazing as an all arounder. Its like a tuner bbq. There more after market products for it so you can make it better in one area if you'd like. I'd highly recommend.
 
I have a mini Big green egg and use it 3-4 times a week. I love my mini. I bought it to be portable and it takes very little charcoal. I bought a mini woo and pizza stones for it, and some fire wire skewers. I will probably buy an egg carten later.
See mini video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYGge_k7FUI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

large/xl if you have room will be more enjoyable. If you get a large get a big green egg handler that attaches to the nest.
That being said. I will never sell my mini. I will just get more eggs.
 
I just did some pork tenderloin on my BGE today. Oh Lordy is it ever good!
I will be getting Small or mini because my wife just bought a '58 Airstream Overlander.
Wow Hoo! Epicure on the road!
 
Ok I'm sold.

While I'm picking the size... somebody chip in and tell me what accessories are a must? :D

I'll be doing basically everything on it. Need to figure if I can pull a pizza off the medium. Lets get anal about specifications now. Thanks all. You guys are the best people in the world when it comes to affirmative action on spending hard earned money.
 
Ok I'm sold.

While I'm picking the size...

Hi There,

I strongly recommend that you get the large, the medium is too small!!! I have had several Green Eggs over the past 15 years or so and I know you will not be satisfied with a medium.

My first Egg was a medium, the salesman tried to talk me into a large, but I thought I am single and just cooking for myself most of the time so I ignored his good advice and bought the medium.....I didn't have it very long and I realized that I had made a mistake....... I really needed that extra room for ribs and chicken.

Trust me, your really need the large!!!! I find the large isn't big enough lots of times.

Just my
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first thing i tell everyone is buy a thermopen..that the advice i was given and i followed it . . the 2-3 second response time is invaluable when you have the dome open at 500 degrees.
for pizza you will want a plate setter and a pizza stone. for brisket and pulled pork, i.e. overnight cooks you will want a bbq guru. multi level or raised grid cooking,, couple of options ,, . i really like the cast iron gird and leave it on all the time not just for steaks. take the standard grid and some carriage bolts nuts and washers and make a raised grid with that. or the ceramic grill store.. first class stuff . i have not purchased yet as i just have too much egg stuff already but i will and wish i had already. link to follow.. you will need a pizza stone .. get the bge stone,, the pampered chef stone does not hold up to egg temps. a wok forum guys are on a wok kick of late. . do cruise around JL's posts you will see what can be done with a medium. if you are going to be an egger you got to do the naked whiz. link to follow. there is a wealt of info there .. when i got my egg i read every word on his site and it made me the self proclaimed expert that i am today [ha ha]



http://www.ceramicgrillstore.com/woo2-direct-or-indirect.html

http://www.nakedwhiz.com/ceramic.htm/

click pics for slide shows of some of my cooks

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Thermapen,plate setter, pizza stone. I used to worry about mapp torch vs electric starter vs starter cubes etc, etc. to light it. No worries. I just twist up a couple paper towels with some vegetable oil on them. Lights perfect every time. If you have the extra money get a BBQ guru. They are great, but not essential. There are a few big green egg forums. Really helpful to see what people are doing. There is a big support base of big green eggers.
 
Last (almost) questions: Anyone knows the best place to pick up a BGE in San Francisco? Either a webby with great delivery service (ideally free) or a nice one stop shop?

Do you specifically use the BGE charcoal or would any form of briquette/compressed or whole charcoal work just fine? I'm guessing results vary with fuel just like other charcoal cookers, but wondering if the BGE is extra sensitive to needing the 'branded' charcoal to facilitate functionality.
 
I think it matters to buy your Egg from someone BGE considers an authorized dealer.....then you're protected by warranty and get free replacement parts. I think most people have replaced their gasket with the better high heat one, which BGE will send you for free. You can find dealers from their site.

I wouldn't worry about charcoal brand.....just get natural real hardwood. The old time brand briquettes you see in supermarkets are usually chemically impregnated which you don't want.
 
I have the large egg and I wish I had an extra large to go with it. For charcoal I use royal oak, which I believe is the BGE charcoal OEM. Royal oak is available at walmart and is the only reason I ever go there. I also like cowboy charcoal, but sometimes I get a bag that is mostly small pieces. The small pieces are great for cooking steak because I can get the egg 800+ degrees pretty fast. Just cooked some bison rib eyes this Saturday, perfect medium rare in 5 minutes.
 
Last (almost) questions: Anyone knows the best place to pick up a BGE in San Francisco? Either a webby with great delivery service (ideally free) or a nice one stop shop?

Do you specifically use the BGE charcoal or would any form of briquette/compressed or whole charcoal work just fine? I'm guessing results vary with fuel just like other charcoal cookers, but wondering if the BGE is extra sensitive to needing the 'branded' charcoal to facilitate functionality.

http://eggsbythebay.com/ this guy has a good reputation

you want lump charcoal not briquettes all you need to know about lump is on the naked whiz website

http://www.biggreenegg.com/ top of the page is a "find a dealer button"

never ever use lighter fluid in the egg
 
Odd question time - how much smoke does it output? Particularly for apartment use, I'm sure the neighbors will be more amenable if it isn't spewing large amounts of smoke all night. BBQ is one of the glories of living in the USA - here we hardly get the opportunity to do any BBQ.

I had the next door neighbor call once to check and make sure my house was not on fire when I was smoking some jerky on my Teager once. :)
 

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