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I do a lot of searching for knife/stone related stuff on the web. In the past couple of months I've noticed that google's results have shown a real decline in quality. Apparently around June google made a change in their search algorithm; the result has been termed "domain crowding" by webmasters. What happens is that the same domain will appear multiple times on the first results page. I searched for "king 800 stone" on google. 6 of the top 8 results were youtube (guess who owns youtube?). For the same search in bing, 7 of the top 8 results were different (unique) domains, with only 1 youtube.

In a search for "shigefusa knife" on google, the top 12 results had only 3 domains: zknives, japan-tool and CKXX. The top 12 on a bing search included japan-tool, zknives, epicedge, kitchenknifeforums, aframestokyo, japanwoodworker, ebay, and CKXX.

There are theories that google tweaked the algorithm to maximize ad revenues as opposed to search relevance. We'll never know, but until it changes I'm going with bing.
 
I haven't tried bing lately, but when I did I didn't like the results.
 
I do a lot of searching for knife/stone related stuff on the web. In the past couple of months I've noticed that google's results have shown a real decline in quality. Apparently around June google made a change in their search algorithm; the result has been termed "domain crowding" by webmasters. What happens is that the same domain will appear multiple times on the first results page. I searched for "king 800 stone" on google. 6 of the top 8 results were youtube (guess who owns youtube?). For the same search in bing, 7 of the top 8 results were different (unique) domains, with only 1 youtube.

In a search for "shigefusa knife" on google, the top 12 results had only 3 domains: zknives, japan-tool and CKXX. The top 12 on a bing search included japan-tool, zknives, epicedge, kitchenknifeforums, aframestokyo, japanwoodworker, ebay, and CKXX.

There are theories that google tweaked the algorithm to maximize ad revenues as opposed to search relevance. We'll never know, but until it changes I'm going with bing.

Couldn't it be that you've spent more time on google so they know which sites you usually go to and optimize the results based on your past viewing history?
 
Yep i think thats what they do, i notised i get different results on different computers and different places
 
Yep, just Google trying to be helpful. A regular cleanout of your browser will help.

I don't mind Google tracking me everywhere. I am using their services(mail, maps, browser, imagehosting, search)! It'd be like getting angry because your sushi chef remembers what you like.
 
I too stopped using google, now I do it through duckduckgo.com. They also have a variety of adblockers that can be installed on firefox, etc. They can be found at the bottom of this link here: http://donttrack.us/
Ghostery works the best and is the most awesome in general.

Not everyone enjoys using duckduckgo because the format is so different and its very simplified but I trust them as a company. Works for me.
 
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I did, didn't work for me. But it's funny just the same.
 
I would say that 70% of the time now I use google image search when looking for products. You can immediately get a a visual on which product you are looking for without clicking into a dozen sites, and then you can hover over the image to see where the URL goes to sort out the riff-raff. There are too many words, websites, and links these days, so I am going to more visual in my searches. IMO that is one reason why Pinterest is one of the fastest growing social platforms now -- its more visual. And most vendors label their images well so you will get those results but if you search for Shige and then click 'images' you will also get blogs and knife forums on the first page -- something that would never happen with a regular search.

k.
 
duckduckgo, pinterest, and google image search are 3 great ideas---thanks!
 
Seriously install ghostery. You won't believe how many ad sites are trying to watch you. and you get to BLOCK THEM BEETCHES! There are some sites where I see 14, 16, 18+ ad tracking sites all wondering what I'm up to. And you know what they see? :ninja::ninja::ninja::dance::dance:
 
Ghostery works well with Fx, but Cr? Not necessary.
 
Chrome = Run by Google, tool to accumulate information on your browsing habits/interests. Self-defeating to use google if you're trying to limit google and other companies access to your browsing information. Firefox is much better about privacy in general.
 
I'm not so paranoid. Oh well. I agree that Firefox -- the concept -- is great. I really got used to it over the years, and had it so well customized. It has taken me a long while to get accustomed to Chrome, but it just... works. Fx has grown so bloated over the years, and they have yet to fix the memory that has plagued it for eons. I mean, seriously, is there a reason Firefox needs to consume 700 Megs of RAM? And Fx is slooowwww. Chrome is a greyhound while Firefox is a pug.
 
Yeah I still use Firefox 90% of the time because it has more addons and that sort of thing than Chrome but it does hog a crazy amount of RAM and it has become very bloated and slow. I can run pretty demanding games on my PC and they still use less RAM than Firefox
 
What is wrong with sites watching what you do? Especially browsers tracking where you go?

Who cares? Privacy is what I do on my own property and in my own head, not what I do in the middle of a Starbucks. I cannot figure out what it is people are so freaked out about. OMG THE LIBRARY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT I READ. EVERYTHING. THEY USE IT TO ORDER MORE BOOKS I WOULD PROBABLY LIKE, AND MAKE ACCURATE SUGGESTIONS!

What exactly is the hubris behind Google tracking your data? Providing more efficient software? Offering businesses better insight into who their customers are and what they want? Collecting helpful social trend data to understand our society better?

I mean when was the last time someone was blackmailed by Google because Google would tell their boss they were on KKF at work, or email their wife a list of porn sites they frequent? I mean, really?
 
It wasn't entirely a rhetorical question, either. If anyone has a good example of Google hurting people or abusing their power using this data, I'd love to know. I use Google stuff for everything, I've been using them since I switched from Metacrawler in 2000.
 
If you are comfortable with being tracked and having detailed information about you being logged in to date collection sites and used as a means of creating revenue (how google makes money) then by all means you have nothing to be concerned about. I personally find it creepy. I'm uncomfortable with the concept of my likes and interests being a commodity. I'm also uncomfortable with it being outside of my control. But really I just find it creepy. Its like the internet equivalent of big brother watching over everything you do and legitimately caring about it.

Moreover its not like the system isn't abused either. The government uses the information collected from google to prosecute. People have hacked google to collect information that isn't otherwise available for sale from google. Even google employees get in on the big brother power.

These aren't too over-the-top in the heinousness department but it underscores that problems with the system do occur. And they care about everything you do. That bothers me, so I choose not to play into the system. Call it paranoia if you want but it makes me more comfortable.

And Maxim, that dog looks awesome.
 
But if you have nothing to hide, why try to hide it?
 
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