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    [QUOTE=mhlee; In my opinion, it's basically the dumbing down of the English language.

    Words are important.[/QUOTE]

    Very erudite, Michael, but I'm not gonna attempt to address your points, all of which are true. Just a question. Am I the only one who has observed that the words "effect" and "affect" have virtually disappeared from the language in the media? Many people don't know the difference in usage, and I defy you to find me an article, or newscast, in which both these words have not been replaced with the word...."impact", which they seem to think is a replacement for both words. I'm serious....pay attention next time you watch Newshour (or whatever) or read a newspaper. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikehunter View Post
    Very erudite, Michael, but I'm not gonna attempt to address your points, all of which are true. Just a question. Am I the only one who has observed that the words "effect" and "affect" have virtually disappeared from the language in the media? Many people don't know the difference in usage, and I defy you to find me an article, or newscast, in which both these words have not been replaced with the word...."impact", which they seem to think is a replacement for both words. I'm serious....pay attention next time you watch Newshour (or whatever) or read a newspaper. ;-)
    That's a really interesting observation. I will look for it.

    I wouldn't be surprised if editors/writers/etc. have been banned from using those words because they are used incorrectly so often.
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    Just another case of the American mass audience being perceived to glorify ignorance. It's not cool to know a lot about something. I think that's garbage and you don't actually need to talk down to people. Even the ones that don't know exactly what you're saying or may miss a word will get the gist of it and might learn something. *insert rant about terrible corporate media in the USA and Americans hero-worshiping idiots on reality TV*

    I feel better now.
    I don't know if it's 100% perception. How many smart kids are still bulllied because they're smart?

    But, I do completely agree that there's no reason to talk down to people. From what I've observed, if you talk to people in an intelligent manner about intelligent things, especially children, they will also speak intelligently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikehunter View Post
    Very erudite, Michael, but I'm not gonna attempt to address your points, all of which are true. Just a question. Am I the only one who has observed that the words "effect" and "affect" have virtually disappeared from the language in the media? Many people don't know the difference in usage, and I defy you to find me an article, or newscast, in which both these words have not been replaced with the word...."impact", which they seem to think is a replacement for both words. I'm serious....pay attention next time you watch Newshour (or whatever) or read a newspaper. ;-)
    affect/effect
    insure/ensure
    your/you're

    the list is long
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwiefel View Post
    affect/effect
    insure/ensure
    your/you're

    the list is long
    Yes it is long, but these words haven't been, that I know of or have noticed, replaced by one catch-all word which replaces both words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhlee View Post
    I don't know if it's 100% perception. How many smart kids are still bulllied because they're smart?
    As far as perception, I don't think it matters whether the perception is true or not since the producers/editors still seem to act as if it is. Look at the trend in programming on the usual "educational" TV channels: History, Discovery, TLC are moving to reality programming and Aliens building pyramids.

    I would say that bullying may be a part of the problem. Our kids grow up in a culture where the "nerdy" kids can/ought to be picked on. Those kids then grow up and tell them that maybe that dorky kid needs to "toughen up" instead of complain about being bullied. Maybe things are changing a bit with "nerds" being the new cool thing. And as much I don't like the lensless thick rimmed glasses fad, I'm all for embracing intelligence culturally.

    Back on topic. I think they need Jeremy Clarkson to go on that show to describe the food. "This steak is as good as smearing honey into Keira Knightly"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikehunter View Post
    Very erudite, Michael, but I'm not gonna attempt to address your points, all of which are true. Just a question. Am I the only one who has observed that the words "effect" and "affect" have virtually disappeared from the language in the media? Many people don't know the difference in usage, and I defy you to find me an article, or newscast, in which both these words have not been replaced with the word...."impact", which they seem to think is a replacement for both words. I'm serious....pay attention next time you watch Newshour (or whatever) or read a newspaper. ;-)
    I don't know if that's true: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/06/us...pagewanted=all In the article the author uses the both effect and affect while abstaining from using impact. Consider yourself defied!

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    Ya' well, I don't recall saying it was impossible, just not likely unless you go looking, when you clearly did. <g. Try 50 more articles and see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikehunter View Post
    Yes it is long, but these words haven't been, that I know of or have noticed, replaced by one catch-all word which replaces both words.
    Quite.
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