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    Question Ginga vs Suisin?

    I haven't had and first hand experience with the Gesshin Ginga Stainless wa-Gyuto, but from my understanding it's quite similar to the Suisin Inox Honyak wa-Gyuto in profile, thinness, weight, etc. I'm not sure if they both use comparable steels, I think the Suisin 19c27, no idea on the Ginga.

    However, the Ginga is considerably less expensive: Suisin $406 vs Ginga $250 for the 240mm versions.

    How do you guys think these two stack up? e.g. the Ginga the better value but the Suisin the better product?
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    Haven't owned the Ginga yet. I am ordering one soon though.
    I was fortunate enough to get to meet Ashi san and I've wanted a knife from him since.
    I like that they do everything in house, handle, bolster etc. I own the Suisin and It's a hell of a knife, been a great workhorse for me. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Ginga would more closely compare to the Konosuke HD rather than the Suisin IH. I would think its got better f&f than the konosuke, at least compared to the last HD I owned vs the Gingas I've seen in person.

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    TamanegiKin, I am not familiar with the Konosuke HD...why would the Ginga be more comparable to that than the Suisin? Functional? Materials? F+F?

    Thanks!
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    This is for real a question for Jon Broida. He would no doubt be all over this if not for the fact that he's on Work-cation.

    Japanese Knife Imports' Youtube channel has video rundowns on both lines of knives, two in the case of Ginga, perhaps watching those could elucidate the differences.

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    Eamon, thanks...I've seen the videos on both series. I was hoping for someone with deeper knowledge of the subject than I to put that in perspective in a comparison format...I don't understand what you are getting for the $150 difference. Despite my big mouth, I'm still a noob in knowledge and years.
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    I would send an email to Jon

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    suisins handles are larger and nicer in many ways IMO. other than that i think you should just go with which steel you prefer.

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    I had the Gesshin Ginga/Suisin Inox conversation w Jon some time ago. He had good things to say about each, shared opinions on ease of sharpening and edge retention. I ended up ordering the Ginga in 270 and like it a lot.

    Not long afterwards a 240 Suisin came up on B/S/T priced to sell. I bought.

    I like them both. A professional or more experienced user may be able to differentiate between them. I can't (other than the length) - either on the board or stone.

    I don't think there is a bad decision to be made between them.

    +1 on calling Jon, suggest if you like Ginga, ask about handle options. They do come with a butt ugly chunk of wood on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveb View Post
    They do come with a butt ugly chunk of wood on them.

    Dave
    My white2 Ginga gyuto came with very good fit/finish and handle, easily as good as my Suisin.

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    if you do decide you want to talk to be about this while i'm in japan, shoot me an e-mail and i'll see if we can find some time to talk on the phone

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