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    Coming soon...

    Scimitar is already heat treated, will start working on it shortly.

    Neck knives I am still tweaking design. What do you guys think of these? They will have 3" of the cutting edge (7-7.25" total lengh), will be made of carbon and stainless damascus (DT and JT), will have mokume bolsters (black area on templates) and probably ironwood scales with mokume bolts. They will be full tang knives and will come with kydex sheath. Will have work out details for sheaths as well, but probably you will see some color.

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    I really like the design of the slimmer handle, and by the sounds of the materials you are using, it is going to be one stunning neck knife. I will be getting one of these for sure! same with the scimitar I really like the profile

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianMan View Post
    I really like the design of the slimmer handle, and by the sounds of the materials you are using, it is going to be one stunning neck knife. I will be getting one of these for sure! same with the scimitar I really like the profile
    The bottom neck knife (in the last picture) can have a slimmer handle but in this particular shape. It feels quite comfortable in the hand, as the handle on the other neck knife.

    Blade profile is inspired by a drop point - my favorite of the hunting knife profiles.

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    They look great. Drop point is also my favorite. I think I prefer the fatter handle.

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    Neck knives look good.


    For me, I prefer the blade profile of the 1 (i.e. blade's heel/belly being parallel to the handle axis),
    and handle shape of 2 (fuller grip at the center of the palm).


    Index finger choil is something I've learned to like on a neck knife.
    I've got a Carter, and I find that despite it's extreme ergonomics, it's a really terribly designed knife in practice.
    1) Hollow grind. If you try to dig one through anything thick with resistance, it just gets stuck.
    2) Hammered kurouchi finish. Compounding to the hollow grind, anything that might catch the material you are trying to cut will grind the blade to a screeching halt. You are constantly trying to free the blade from the material you are trying to cut. These two combined, makes it one of the worst designed knife I've personally owned and used.

    I guess for me, a neck knife by design, should put pragmatism first and aesthetics second.
    I think something like 3 inch blade, made with high Rockwell rating, and full flat or slightly convexed grind is required at the basics level. You can have other peripheral embellishments like opting for drop point or having false edge, but those, in my opinion make only minor differences. So far, your knives are looking good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xuz View Post
    Neck knives look good.


    For me, I prefer the blade profile of the 1 (i.e. blade's heel/belly being parallel to the handle axis),
    and handle shape of 2 (fuller grip at the center of the palm).


    Index finger choil is something I've learned to like on a neck knife.
    I've got a Carter, and I find that despite it's extreme ergonomics, it's a really terribly designed knife in practice.
    1) Hollow grind. If you try to dig one through anything thick with resistance, it just gets stuck.
    2) Hammered kurouchi finish. Compounding to the hollow grind, anything that might catch the material you are trying to cut will grind the blade to a screeching halt. You are constantly trying to free the blade from the material you are trying to cut. These two combined, makes it one of the worst designed knife I've personally owned and used.

    I guess for me, a neck knife by design, should put pragmatism first and aesthetics second.
    I think something like 3 inch blade, made with high Rockwell rating, and full flat or slightly convexed grind is required at the basics level. You can have other peripheral embellishments like opting for drop point or having false edge, but those, in my opinion make only minor differences. So far, your knives are looking good.
    Thanks for your feedback, please keep it coming.

    The neck knives are going to be thin knives - 3-2.7mm over the heel. They will be thinly ground, and it's going to be a full grind (edge to spine), not partial, and basically I will grind them as I do my kitchen knives to about .005 on the edge.

    Hardness is going to be 62-63RC, steels and heat treatment will be to maximize wear resistance.

    These will be hand-finished and polished to 1000 grit.

    The radius at the heel is for ease of sharpening.


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    Stealing the pic that xuz posted. I agree with him on the grind. BUT my preference is backwards to his. I'd want handle shape 1 wih blade shape 2 but that is like splitting hairs as the blade shapes are quite similar. I'll be in for one for sure.


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    63rc would be simply amazing for any EDC.


    A further note:
    This is so minor as to not even warrant a change in current design,
    but if you would make a different type of EDC knife in the future,
    I would consider adding a finger guard.

    Many guys that carry EDC knives sometimes use them to perform piercing/stabbing motions.
    (For defensive purposes, or for stabbing into a perp's sofa to find hidden cocaine etc.)
    There's alway the risk that, especially when hands get sweaty or slippery,
    the hand could slip past the handle and run right over the blades.
    These injuries are surprisingly common.
    So some kind of safety feature involving guard/choil would be a nice addition that adds to the public appeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xuz View Post
    63rc would be simply amazing for any EDC.


    A further note:
    This is so minor as to not even warrant a change in current design,
    but if you would make a different type of EDC knife in the future,
    I would consider adding a finger guard.

    Many guys that carry EDC knives sometimes use them to perform piercing/stabbing motions.
    (For defensive purposes, or for stabbing into a perp's sofa to find hidden cocaine etc.)
    There's alway the risk that, especially when hands get sweaty or slippery,
    the hand could slip past the handle and run right over the blades.
    These injuries are surprisingly common.
    So some kind of safety feature involving guard/choil would be a nice addition that adds to the public appeal.
    The choil in these neck knives by Murray Carter and Rick Lowe serve that purpose, AFAIK.





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    I am going to make another set of templates, incorporating feedback I received. Thank you and keep it coming.

    I shelved a drop point hunter at the moment, but the guard can be carried over to a neck knife if necessary.

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