Does it feel as thick as it seems?
When I get home, I'll take calipers to my favourite gyuto to compare, but that seems like it could be a bit of a fatty (or workhorse).
Thanks for the measurements!
Well, I got mine yesterday w/o a handle. I took a bunch of measurements so here we go: Blade height @ heel - 55mm, cutting edge length - 240mm, spine thickness @ heel - 2.3mm, spine thickness midway - 2mm, spine thickness 1" from tip - 1.27mm, blade thickness 5mm above edge - 0.5mm, weight of blade w/o handle - 148g.
Haven't decided what to do about a handle. I bought a handle from Stefan a couple of months ago and was originally going to use it, but I think I'm going to save it for something else.
194g does seem a tad heavy (at least comparatively to most lasers), no? But, he does refer to it as a "workhorse" I guess....
I'd love to hear someones thoughts post taking it to the stones...
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I'm not trying to defend this knife (I think it looks a little awkward/ugly), but I do have some questions about why people have been calling it thick. I'm still totally new to Japanese knives and I'm waiting on mine to arrive, so I don't have a good sense of the geometry of these knives yet. Looking at profile shots of this knife and Hiromoto AS knives, don't the Hiromotos seem thicker to you? And everyone seems to love those. Or for example, Maksim just posted a profile shot of his Yoshikane gyuto, which looks similar to this and he said the geometry was excellent. Looking at the measurement for thickness of the blade between the spine and edge, this knife is barely thicker than a Konosuke 240mm gyuto, which is considered a laser (it's thicker by .2mm than the Konosuke). Is that .2mm going to make a huge difference?
Again, not trying to defend this knife, and I'm not even interested in buying it either. I'm just trying to get a better sense of how geometry is likely to affect the cutting and why people consider one knife thick and another one to have great geometry if the numbers are similar.
I'm not bashing the knife at all. I have no reason to. But, 2.75mm spine thickness is pretty girthy...not super thick, but for me, it's more about the 2.55mm halfway down towards the tip. That, is closer to what a heel measurement should be. There doesn't seem to be a lot of distal taper at all, which will make the already stubby tip less usable (in theory).
I'm not sure about the grind (spine to cutting edge taper), as I haven't yet measured a knife that I consider very nimble.
I will reserve judgement, and give it the benefit of the doubt.
I'm keeping in mind the fabled Aritsugu type a isn't exactly a supermodel either. This could very well be an excellent knife for the price. I'm going to sit back and read the reviews, and let the people who are actually using the knife tell the story, instead of just numbers. They are after all, just numbers.
Wow, never seen that knife until now. It looks like an exact copy/profile of the Watanabe gyuto. Interesting.