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  1. Miguelito's Blade

    Gray sludge that looks like neither slurry or swarf

    I used a diamond plate on the 220 and found that it had penetrated below the surface but the stain was smaller than it had been. The usuba took a decent edge in just a few minutes so I flattened it past the nicks in the edge and have started thinning on a 120 Suhehiro Debado. It is producing...
  2. Miguelito's Blade

    Gray sludge that looks like neither slurry or swarf

    I experience the same thing with my good knives, i.e., they discolor the stone; however, the discoloration is nothing like what I am experiencing. I don't think that you are referring to the ordinary swarf that forms, because even though it discolors, what doesn't wipe off is easily removed...
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    Gray sludge that looks like neither slurry or swarf

    - I have intended to find out if any of them will sharpen. If not, then that ends the project right there; however, if they will take an edge, then I will spend the time and effort to refinish them. As luck would have it, I am disabled and have all the time in the world to work on knives...
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    Gray sludge that looks like neither slurry or swarf

    No. That is not happening because I've tried both ways you suggest and a good knife against either the stained side or the clear side produces nothing other than what it always produces. When I first realized that the stone was stained with this substance, I feared that my stone was damaged...
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    Gray sludge that looks like neither slurry or swarf

    Yes it is a clad line. As I understand it, nimai cladding is a carbon core clad in iron. Is iron known to produce such a substance? If it is, then all four knives are trash.
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    Gray sludge that looks like neither slurry or swarf

    As far as I know, they are all Japanese. When I purchased these three knives, I also purchased another usuba from a different seller. Upon taking it to my 220 stone, it did the same as the others, as the previously shiny areas became covered with the same substance. The fourth photo is my 220...
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    Gray sludge that looks like neither slurry or swarf

    Great suggestions. I will try them today and post the results.
  8. Miguelito's Blade

    Gray sludge that looks like neither slurry or swarf

    Both stones have just been flattened with a diamond plate and cleaned with a nagura stone. What makes it all the more puzzling to me is that all three knives do the same thing.
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    Gray sludge that looks like neither slurry or swarf

    In the first photo, I have been grinding it with 60 grit sandpaper and it is bright and shiny. In the next photo, I have made six passes on a 220 grit Shapton ceramic stone, which produced the gray substance leaving the blade gray and dull. The only way to remove it that I have found so far is...
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    Gray sludge that looks like neither slurry or swarf

    I did wash them. I scrubbed the bejesus out of them and turned some of the kanji characters from black to white. I've been working on the usuba and will post some photos later tonight of how the gunk turns a bright ground blade into a dull mess.
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    Gray sludge that looks like neither slurry or swarf

    Thanks for the replies. I'll keep grinding. Also thanks for cluing me in as to the type of steel.
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    Gray sludge that looks like neither slurry or swarf

    A 220 Shapton ceramic and a 500 Shapton glass. The steel, as far as I can tell, is stainless, based only on my extremely limited experience and knowledge of steel. In other words, I could not find anything that indicated to me carbon steel such as evidence of clad construction. I purchased a...
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    Gray sludge that looks like neither slurry or swarf

    So I picked up three damaged knives on ebay to practice on. When I took one of them to a coarse stone to start refinishing it, I noticed that a gray sludge formed immediately after a couple of strokes. I wiped it off, and it just smeared onto the blade and instantly dried. It would not wipe...
  14. Miguelito's Blade

    Sakai Takayuki Kanyata Gyuto: Recommended?

    Thank you all for your responses. The reason I was looking at the santoku is that I have discovered that I prefer push pull rather than rocking. While using my gyuto I find myself wishing for a flatter edge profile. I am looking at single bevel knifes simply because I want to learn how to use...
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    Sakai Takayuki Kanyata Gyuto: Recommended?

    I started out looking for a Santoku, but my search eventually led me here: Sakai Takayuki Tokujyo Supreme (White 2 steel) Japanese Chef's Kengata-Gyuto Knife 210mm KIWAMI[ULTIMATE] I have also been looking for a single bevel knife; I have yet to try one but I believe the time has come. I would...
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