They still behave/feel very similar to my "flat bevel" knives though :) I guess this helps a little bit more with food release.
After some use they will get completely flat though. My sharpening sessions include a bit of thining on the knives that have a secondary bevel.
Edit: I guess this is...
So, I want to try a new 210mm gyuto. What I'm looking for is:
Rounded spine OTB.
Just a little bit of belly (most of my cutting is push/pull but once in a while I do rock chopping).
Stainless or semi stainless.
A steel that doesn't take too much to sharpen yet holds a good edge for a while...
I can vouch for the Makoto Ryusei. I own the 210mm Gyuto and It has been my main knife for more than 6 months. It pretty much works great on anything with different cutting techniques. It holds a good working edge for quite sometime, it is quite fast to sharpen also. Time and effectiveness are...
I don't use a system. Just free hand. I like it 50/50 cuz that is what I have found that works for me.
Now, could you elaborate on which bevel "configs" work better for which geometry? How do you recommend approaching each one of them on the stones?
I'm willing to try again.
On top of my head:
Kyohei Shindo
Muneishi
Munetoshi
Takamura
Shiro Kamo
Hattori
Makoto Kurasaki
Mazakage
Anything house branded at Japanesechefsknife webshop like:
Fun-Rin-Ka-Zan and JCK
Some series from Sakai Takayuki are also very good.
The Kurouchi is pretty much gone by now, but they are still kind of "slick" on the finish, I thin them a little bit every time that I'm gonna sharpen them.
The Manaka has tsuchime, but just at the top. It is a very tall blade. I don't know how you would call the finish on the wide bevel, but it...
Nah, the knives are well taken care of and they perform great with other ingredients. It is just on the Flanksteak where they are outperformed.
Plus it is 3 knives the ones that just don't do it there... And it even happens when they just got a fresh edge.
It is forged by Y. Tanaka, a highly regarded knife maker.
Still, I encourage you to check out the Shindos I mentioned.
It is impossible for us to know who makes those knives just with that info. It doesn't even mention the steel.