Best 5000-6000 grit splash and go

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  1. Mar 26, 2020 #1

    crlums

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    It's been a while since I posted, but with some unexpected work from home time I've been working on my sharpening game.

    I want to upgrade my finisher and am looking for something in the 5000-6000 grit range that is splash and go. Currently I use a shapton pro 2000 and often just finish there. I also have a cheap old 1000/6000 combo stone and have been playing with more recently. I'll be using this for SG2, Blue 2, and Ginsan steels and want something utilitarian that works well for all. Edge quality is my main goal and I don't focus much on polishing, contrast, or aesthetics.

    I've read good things about the gesshin 6000 splash and go and the JNS 6000. The gesshin is out of stock and the JNS becomes a bit expensive the US to the the US. Any recommendations would be much appreciated.
     
  2. Mar 26, 2020 #2

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    Gesshin 6k is an awesome stone. Get it and you'll have no regrets. Don't know if JKI is still taking orders during covid-19, though...
     
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    Like the Gesshin a lot. Like the JNS stone as well. Either would suit you well.

    Sometimes with JNS you just have to throw something else in your cart to meet the free shipping threshold. He's out of shanks right now but this is always a favorite of mine to nudge the cart.

    https://www.japanesenaturalstones.com/munetoshi-small-kurouchi-75mm/
     
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    gesshin 6k . awesome polish is an extra on top of being a good stone
     
  6. Mar 26, 2020 #6

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    Thanks all! Sounds like I'm headed in the right direction with both JNS or Gesshin 6k, possibly some others too. Ill put up a WTB and see whats out there.
     
  7. Mar 26, 2020 #7

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    On your SG2 and Aogami #2 at least, the Gesshin 6K S&G is a really nice choice. It'll cut well, feel nice to use, and leave a nice edge... However, if you're expecting Shapton-type 'Splash & Go' performance from this, unfortunately this isn't this stone's forte. It's thirsty, and really, doesn't come alive until you perma-soak it.

    There aren't a ton of 'true' S&G stones... I can confirm the lacquer sided ones from JNS & JKI are, Shapton Pro's and Glass Stones are, Naniwa Pro/Chosera's are cuspy (They need a few splashes)... There are a few others.

    I hate to talk you out of a good stone, because the 6K S&G is peachy for your exact application (It's a little soft for the Ginsan I've tested on it at around 59-60 HRC, but if yours is tempered harder it might be a little easier to get a crisp edge freehand.). However, if true S&G is needed, then it's not your stone.

    Because of the SG2, I'd actually look at the Shapton Glass 4K HR. If you like the feel of the 2K Pro, you'll like the feel of this stone. Because of how consistent Shapton's abrasives are, the edges they create start getting 'smooth' feeling a little sooner than some other brands. Stones like the Gesshin 6K S&G aren't graded quite as tightly based upon the scratch pattern, so have a little more bite for their grit.

    If you're willing to start a perma-soaker collection, give the Gesshin a go.

    I hope this helps...

    - Steampunk
     
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  8. Mar 26, 2020 #8

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    Shapton Glass HR 6000, it's an excellent stone. Scary sharp territory
     
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    I have to add, I own and also like the Naniwa Super Stone 5000, a great polisher.

    But the Shapton Glass 6000 makes a better, more aggressive edge.

    Another option would be the Naniwa Hayabusa 4000. A little less grit, but very inexpensive and makes a very aggressive and great cutting edge for kitchen tasks.

    And they are all true splash & go!
     
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    You could combine the first two with the HC 6000 Glass, but I agree that Hayabusa is great for carbon knives and in general (but really shines on carbon) with this caveat, some people had serious cracks.
     
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    Do you permasoak the hayabusa?
     
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    I never did this. Looks like it takes some water, some color change occurs right away, but that's about it. I have mine for several years now.
     
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    I use the Hayabusa splash & go, I never soak it
     
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    I also use it as a splash and go, but I do let it soak for a couple of min before use.
     
  15. Mar 27, 2020 at 3:42 AM #15

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    I think the arashiyama is a really great stone. It is advertised as s&g but I have always permasoaked mine. Nice balance of toothy VS polished on edges and can be used to polish bevels aswell.
     
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    Permasoak mine also.
     
  17. Mar 27, 2020 at 6:02 AM #17

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    I like Morihei 6k, it's splash and go and better than Arashiyama. Cuts faster, better contrast and polish, and slightly toothier than Arashiyama on the edge. I want to try Hayabusa but I also want Morihei 4K and Suehiro Ouka 3K. So many stones but I don't have the money to buy everything.
     
  18. Mar 27, 2020 at 6:21 AM #18

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    I know this problem very well from my own experience.

    Believe me, with a little patience and time you will try out and own many different stones.

    And one day you will find that you don't need most of them at all, because you suddenly realize which stones are your favorites.

    But until then it's a long and expensive way ... but lots of fun!
     
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  19. Mar 27, 2020 at 8:38 PM #19

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    Thanks for all the info everyone. I ended up posting a WTB and found a JNS 6000 at a good price. I'll give that one a try but will likely try a few of the others mentioned in this thread eventually.
     
  20. Mar 27, 2020 at 8:44 PM #20

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    Hayabusa produces an absolute killer edge easy. It’s a cheap stone and it loads pretty quick though.
    What’s weird is that I think my shapton 1k does a better job dressing the stone than my atoma 140
     
  21. Mar 27, 2020 at 8:44 PM #21

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    Sigma Power Ceramic 6k, AKA jinzo renge suita. It's hard and dense yet feels soft and creamy, also very dish resistant and fast. The price is reasonable as well.
     
  22. Mar 27, 2020 at 9:25 PM #22

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    where can I purchase it?

    Also how quickly does it load up? Is it suitable (good) to use it on razors? True splash&go?
     
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    i have the 6k shapton glass HC gray colored. and its quite good. faster than one might think. and creates a good polish. almost 8-10k polish. also leaves good bite. imo.

    its cheap, it works, its good, its very slow wearing, its s&g.
     
  25. Mar 27, 2020 at 11:48 PM #25

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    It does load up a tiny bit but it's not a deal breaker imo. I have no idea how well suited it is for razors. It's almost a true splash and go. It absorbs just a little bit of water but it also quickly stops absorbing water. It's a matter of positives vs negatives and the positives outweigh the negatives with this stone.
     
  26. Mar 27, 2020 at 11:51 PM #26

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    Ok. Thx. And how s the finish? What about the edge it gives?
    Thanks again :)
     
  27. Mar 28, 2020 at 7:54 AM #27

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    The finish isn't up there with the best to be honest, it's very polished, but the edge is very good. On the plus side though, it's very easy to go from the Sigma to a true finisher.
     
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