Best 600-800 stone for mostly stainless knives?

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    My collection is SLD and ginsan knives, and future purchases will continue to be semi-ss, pm or ginsan. My current stones are Shapton pro 2k and Rika 5k, so I figure a 600-800 grit would be the next best purchase. Is there any consensus on which stone in that range is best for the steels I gravitate towards? From my initial research it seems chosera, bester, cerax are each ok options? I'm thinking bester or cerax before chosera as I don't see myself using a low grit very often. Shapton's only grit close to my range are either 500 or 1k so I dont know about that.
     
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    Shapton 1k is actually more like 800.
    Definitely rougher then Bester 1k.
     
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    For stainless shapton 1k.
     
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    Shapton will certainly fit the job well, though a Cerax would too. Once way or another - a 800 stone will render your Shpaton 2k (which to my understanding is more like 1.5k and considerably slower than the 1k) redundant.
     
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    Are you going to use the stone only for sharpening or do you plan to do some polishing as well? For sharpening, shapton 1k -> rika 5k is absolutelly without problem, for polishing you will have to go shapton 1k -> 2k -> rika. 1K does leave some deep scratches, which you will notice on larger surface area
     
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    Ah polishing may come into play eventually. I actually am ok with the pace that the 2k sharpens as I dont have many knives and they dont need stone work often. I guess the shapton 1k or cerax (probably shapton) will be more for chips and the softer western knives lying around.
     
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    That said, for chip repair would going lower to 320 be better?
     
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    Depends on the size, 1k can handle minor chips with no problem, for serious repair work/reprofiling 320 would be way to go
     
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    Shapton Glass 500 and shapton pro 1000 are surprisingly close to each other on the finish they leave.

    With the 500 you can use it like. 1000 grit and then go to 2000 and be done for most good stainless.
     
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    Also the pro 1000 is cheaper and will last a lot longer. Dishes less.
     
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    I too like the sp1k in this case. As for the 2k, it makes a fine tweener stone so I'd not worry about it becoming redundant. The 1k and 2k are the perfect 1-2 punch for stainless imo and the 1k/5k for carbon.

    Now, as far are minor repair, that can be done with the SP1k but at the end of the day it is a 800-1k(ish) stone and has its limitations. Micro chips, sure. Actual chips, well sure but I'd reach for another stone every time though. For even the most minor thinning I'd still reach for something faster. If staying in the shapton lineup I'd go for the 220 over the 320 (noticeably faster). But if you want a 320 the cerax is a nice stone too.
     
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    My experience with Shapton Pro 1K and 2K is that the 1K acts lower than the label suggests, quick sharpening , minor repair ok. I use mine almost exclusively on stainless (easy to do since most of my knives are some sort of stainless variant) and then the 2K for me acts higher than the label suggests. For work gyuto and the Wustie Pro house knives, the 1K , 2K progression is all I need. I do keep a Pro 320 on the windowsill just in case someone (including me) gets stupid.
     
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    awesome all, I'll definitely pick up a shap 1k. I do have some gnaly low grit dmts if I ever need to do heavy repair or reprofile.
     
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    Think Chosera 800 is a standout.
     
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    The Beston stones are fast, hard, and easy to use but require permasoaking (takes half an hour for them to stop gulping water). Work really well, I like mine.

    For serious low grit work a King Deluxe 300 is the bomb -- stays flat, cuts well, doesn't need to be soaked. Only drawback is that you need to keep some 100 grit SiC sandpaper around and a marble tile to refresh it, it's so hard the grit rounds off and it slows way down without wearing. Minor complaint.
     
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    Ah perma soaking isn't really an option for me but good to know.
     
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    +1 on the Sp1K unless you're willing to go with Cho400/GS 500 and jump to 2k.

    Cho 800 is still great (with ginsanko, aebl, 19c27) but if you start Cho 400 with crap stainless,
    thats 2 stones ($120) vs 1 stone ($40-55) if you go shapton pro 1k or Glass 500 to 2K.
     
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    Yeah I went with sp1k yesterday. Looking forward to it.
     
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